martin wrote:After a bit of thought and 5 minutes of YouTube highlight watching, I’m all behind a Deni move. Such a great find, especially cause of that contract.

Skill, fit, chemistry, contract, position. He is a ball mover and passer in the same vein as Hart, DDV, iHart while being defensive minded and very switchable. Shooting 40% from downtown this year on decent volume. Assists and rebounds up every year.

I’d move Bogs (who Washington could prob move again depending on his playoff performance), Precious, Knicks 2024, Dallas 2024 (or keep one and offer up Detroit or Mil pick).

Brunson, DDV, OG, Randle, iHart. Deuce, Hart, Deni, Mitch.

You get younger. You get a nice contract to offset future salaries of OG Brunson Randle iHart.

Another Hart, DDV, IHart was exactly what i was thinking. Gotta collect them all.

His game like theirs is to be a 2 way glue role player on a contending team with a solid all around game. On a team like the Wizards with no real stars or compliment of players to play off of his impact is minimal. But in a rotation with the horses that we have. Kid will be unleashed.

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martin wrote:Yeah Id overpay in terms of draft picks for this kid based on potential, fit, and contract.

Does he play D?

Niiiiice,

Deni is a guy I’d overpay for in draft compensation. Seems like a straight mix of Thibs type, Villanova, and late blooming euro star’ish

Precious will hit RFA so the Knicks should resign him rather than lose.an asset. Between Randle Josh OG and Precious, how many minutes will be.available at the forward position? A trade for Deni doesn't make sense to me. Better just to draft some hungry rookies that the team can develop.

martin wrote:Brooklyn would never ever trade Mikal to the Knicks, right? Cause of the shame?

But this IS the exact moment they can ask for a Gorbert lever return with a cherry on top, right?

Bogs, Precious and all the picks and swaps for Mikal.

Brunson McBride
Mikal DDV
OG Hart Mikal
Randle OG Hart
iHart Big Mitch

Starting to feel like OG where it is becoming an inevitability. Players have a lot of leverage in this league. They need picks more than anything and we can offer more than anyone.

DLeethal wrote:OR - the wildcard play would be trading Randle in a deal for Mikal and rolling with OG at the 4, where Thibs seems very comfortable playing him. Knicks have been content trading all the homegrowns for Brunson's buddies, this wouldn't be that much of a shock given what we've seen go down.

I'd be completely on board with that. Might mean Randle heading to a 3rd team.

But Mikal is an ironman so he can step in when OG is out and you resign Precious in that case.

In games OG is out you roll with

Hart
Precious
MIkal
DDV
Brunson

would be great redundancy backup

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nycericanguy wrote:Mikal still makes a ton of sense here, especially if OG is gonna be a 50-60 game a year player.

We could easily offer 4 1sts, if BK could just get over the idea of not dealing with us.

Knicks 2024, Dallas 2024, Mil 2025, Detroit 2025, Bogs, Deuce.

Trade stings on both sides. Who says no?

have no problem with the picks but we cant trade Duece, Burks has been trash on both ends and we need a backup PG. and really Deuce is the backup SG now too.

I think you can make a deal without him, include Sims. Or Mitch or Mitch to a 3rd team.

but the Nets are in a position where they may have to pay Claxton 20-25m per and he's def not worth that. So maybe Mitch or Sims would be good alternatives for them.

I think we could also take Cam Johnson's contracts off their hands if they wanted to unload that.

This is wishful thinking IMO. If you are projecting a trade for a star that doesn't sting with whom you are giving up, then you probably aren't projecting anything realistic. They will want Deuce, they probably will not value Mitch that highly due to having Claxton and Mitch's injury history.

Realistic trade would probably include Deuce, Precious going out, maybe Mitch to 3rd team, bunch of picks, and we probably get some spare parts in return to help ease loss of some of those bench guys.

Precious is a FA so he cant be a part of trades this summer.

I dont think its wishful thinking to hold onto Deuce, 1) I dont think other teams are going to view him as a must have stud prospect, 2) we have plenty of picks where we shouldnt have to add Deuce and 3) we seem to be really high on him, just dont see us immediately trading him after what he's shown unless another PG is coming back.

if i'm the knicks another low key target could be Desmond Bane, 24/5/5 elite shooter, tough player. MEM kind of in no mans land right now. Maybe he could become available for the right price?

I think the Deuce thing would be more BKN demanding a young player we value on a cheap contract just for the sake of it. Are we really gonna nix this deal over Deuce? Don't think so, that's why they would ask. They have no reason to play nice with us if they get pressured to trade Mikal here. I guess you are right on Precious unless it was a S&T thing or something. Him being added again is just BKN demanding some young players back, because they would be in tear down mode and need young guys who can eat up big minutes and bring a winning mentality.

Desmond Bane is very interesting though.