Props to Thibs for developing McBride, but how about Rose locking him up right before his minutes and production took off? Knicks success starts with the.shrewd moves by the front office.

I'm kind of disappointed with how little I miss IQ RJ and Grimes.

Say what you will about Bogs and Burkes struggling, they still space the floor and open up plays for other guys. They were also huge in the 4th vs. Sacramento. I feel like they can't play any worse and will hopefully hit a percentage evening stretch later in the season.

Pretty positive news about OG. Maybe OG Randle and Mitchell can all come back during the soft stretch after Denver. I'd much rather be ib.Milwaukee and Doc Rivers bracket than in Boston's.

Did Warriors explore trading CP at the deadline? It doesn't seem like his game has dropped off much. He should be starting on a contender and not trading minutes with Steph. Hard to believe OKC wouldn't be a lot better with him vs Giddey or Magic.

Even going up against the champs next game you still gotta give the Knicks a chance. Thibs has really figured out how to get the team rolling heading into the post season.

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

Nalod wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:GSW had an amazing run but the end of a dynasty is usually not pretty.

I admire the effort to rebuild with yoot and its tough. Kuminga will be a good one but Wiseman dissapointed. Its hard to build thru draft!!! Even if your winning chips. Wiggins falling off has also hurt. Trayce-Jackson a good pick up! CP3 was the cost to rid of poole.
Its hard to transition as you said!!!

they made some bad moves. Wiseman pick was awful from day 1.

I remember the Knicks wanted to move up draft LaMelo that season. GSW could have had Mitch, and #8 to draft Hali, instead they chose Wiseman. That was a huge setback and the beginning of the end.

If they had taken the Knicks offer, imagine them having Mitch & Hali instead?

Reality is lots of teams mess up in move-to-move microanalysis. GM-ing is a big picture macro game. You find horrible moves from even the greatest GMs but they get swept under the rug when the end results are good enough.

That said, I agree watching the end of a dynasty is not pretty. It takes balls to move on from guys that won you multiple championships. The Warriors have been trying to do it the way the Spurs did it from 2011-2015. It's hard to blend youth with aging stars like that. Curry is still good enough to give them a 2-3 year push if they can retool properly but they don't have much going for them anymore.

The results were more than good enough. They did win a chip in 2022 4 years after the previous! They kind of did accomplish it!
They got 4 chips in this run.

Hard to know when to fold them. Boston moving Pierce and Garnett to Nets set them up really nice a few years after.

Times are differeent now. New CBA changes everything. The cap/Apron makes things tough. They need to let Klay walk, and trade Draymond to a contender.
If Steph is cool with it let him be the show and have fun while they retool. His legacy is cemented.

gradyandrew wrote:Lots of resiliency. GSW went on a bunch of runs and every time the Knicks had an answer.

Props to Thibs for developing McBride, but how about Rose locking him up right before his minutes and production took off? Knicks success starts with the.shrewd moves by the front office.

I'm kind of disappointed with how little I miss IQ RJ and Grimes.

Say what you will about Bogs and Burkes struggling, they still space the floor and open up plays for other guys. They were also huge in the 4th vs. Sacramento. I feel like they can't play any worse and will hopefully hit a percentage evening stretch later in the season.

Pretty positive news about OG. Maybe OG Randle and Mitchell can all come back during the soft stretch after Denver. I'd much rather be ib.Milwaukee and Doc Rivers bracket than in Boston's.

Did Warriors explore trading CP at the deadline? It doesn't seem like his game has dropped off much. He should be starting on a contender and not trading minutes with Steph. Hard to believe OKC wouldn't be a lot better with him vs Giddey or Magic.

Even going up against the champs next game you still gotta give the Knicks a chance. Thibs has really figured out how to get the team rolling heading into the post season.

On Bogey/Burks - I was definitely ok with the trade (though wanted a ball handling PG who could get in paint).

Huge Bogey fan and living in Colorado wanted Knicks to draft Burks out of Univ of Colorado back,in the day (ironically coming out of college he was a big guard who could drive / score at the rim but couldn’t shoot).

Anyway - I’m rooting so hard for these cats and I’m going from YES Bogey! YES Alex! when they knock down a shot to crying in my beer when they are flopping & falling all,over the court.

Said previously it will only take 1 or 2 big playoff shots to make the trade worth it but still these guys are too good to look this bad —- particularly Bogey on open looks. You get vets for reliability and like you - hoping/thinking they will turn it on down the stretch.

LivingLegend wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Bogs is really pressing

Jesus - he and Burks are playing so wonky most of the time - CRAZY poor play - not just missed shots but passes to nowhere, falling down, etc…etc.

Is it even possible Burks has less arc on his shot than Mitch?

martin wrote:

DLeethal wrote:As for the game, what a show from the very beginning. Thibs going with 4 guards and iHart to start the game. That type of matchup-driven switch of the starting lineup is something many including myself said Thibs was not known for and would likely never do. Looks brilliant today. Biggest question mark is do they keep that unit rolling against a big Denver team? I don't think anyone wants to see us go back to starting Precious at PF.

iHart and Deuce were heroic yesterday. Deuce just has a knack for hitting big shots it seems. Even late-clock heaves, just feels good when he's rising up for a big shot.

iHart is just such a difference maker for this team. Crazy how badly we fell off a cliff with Precious or Sims yesterday and completely dominated iHart's minutes. Precious almost looked like he was throwing the game or something, was awful yesterday. Was also odd to see Sims get mins mid-game before going back to Precious. Wonder if something was going on with him.

Bogs and Burks back to being garbaggio. Just seems like they have no idea who to get good shots in this offense. Neither guy seems capable of hitting contested shots anymore. Burks seems to be reliable from the corner, need to try and get him some more looks from there. Bogs 3 ball seems so off, I'd much rather see him on the drive at this point then shooting even wide open 3s. Both guys should actually get relegated to corner 3 duty instead of being tasked with 1:1 creation where it seems they are both lost.

I am frankly shocked at how many of his heaves go in. After a while it's not just luck

It's the braid hanging in front of his eye. It's like a cross hair for a sniper.

ToddTT wrote:

      EAST             W    L     PCT     GB   STRK    L10     HOME    AWAY     PPG    OPPG   DIFF
      --------        --   --   -----   ----   ----   ----    -----   -----   -----   -----   ----
1     Boston          54   14   0.794      -     W6    8-2     31-3   23-11   121.0   109.3   11.7   
2     Milwaukee       44   24   0.647     10     W2    7-3     27-7   17-17   120.7   117.3    3.4   
3     Cleveland       43   25   0.632     11     W1    5-5    22-13   21-12   113.5   109.5    4.0   
4     New York        41   27   0.603     13     W4    6-4    22-13   19-14   112.0   107.9    4.1   
5     Orlando         40   28   0.588     14     W3    8-2     23-9   17-19   110.7   109.0    1.7   
6     Philadelphia    38   30   0.559     16     W2    5-5    21-15   17-15   114.8   112.3    2.5   
7     Indiana         38   31   0.551   16.5     L1    5-5    21-15   17-16   122.8   120.9    1.9   
8     Miami           37   31   0.544     17     L1    4-6    17-15   20-16   109.8   109.3    0.5   
9     Chicago         34   35   0.493   20.5     W2    6-4    18-17   16-18   112.0   113.6   -1.6   
10    Atlanta         30   38   0.441     24     L1    4-6    16-17   14-21   119.0   121.1   -2.1   
11    Brooklyn        26   42   0.382     28     L3    4-6    16-18   10-24   111.7   114.1   -2.4   
12    Toronto         23   45   0.338     31     L7    1-9    13-20   10-25   113.7   118.0   -4.3   
13    Charlotte       17   51    0.25     37     L2    2-8     9-24    8-27   106.8   116.7   -9.9   
14    Detroit         12   56   0.176     42     L3    3-7     7-28    5-28   111.7   120.1   -8.4   
15    Washington      11   57   0.162     43     L4    2-8     4-27    7-30   113.8   124.0  -10.2   
      WEST             W    L     PCT     GB   STRK    L10     HOME    AWAY     PPG    OPPG   DIFF
      --------        --   --   -----   ----   ----   ----    -----   -----   -----   -----   ----
1     Oklahoma City   47   20   0.701      -     W2    7-3     27-7   20-13   120.7   113.1    7.6   
2     Minnesota       47   21   0.691    0.5     W3    6-4     23-8   24-13   113.3   106.6    6.7   
3     Denver          47   21   0.691    0.5     L1    8-2     27-6   20-15   114.7   110.2    4.5   
4     Los Angeles     42   25   0.627      5     L2    5-5    22-11   20-14   116.5   112.6    3.9   
5     New Orleans     41   26   0.612      6     W2    7-3    20-13   21-13   116.1   111.0    5.1   
6     Sacramento      39   28   0.582      8     W1    6-4    20-13   19-15   118.0   117.0    1.0   
7     Dallas          39   29   0.574    8.5     W1    6-4    21-15   18-14   118.8   117.5    1.3   
8     Phoenix         39   29   0.574    8.5     L1    5-5    21-14   18-15   116.9   114.6    2.3   
9     Los Angeles     37   32   0.536     11     W1    6-4    25-12   12-20   117.5   117.6   -0.1   
10    Golden State    35   32   0.522     12     L1    5-5    17-18   18-14   118.3   116.8    1.5   
11    Houston         32   35   0.478     15     W5    7-3    23-11    9-24   113.2   112.5    0.7   
12    Utah            29   39   0.426   18.5     L2    2-8    20-15    9-24   117.2   120.6   -3.4   
13    Memphis         23   46   0.333     25     L3    3-7     8-27   15-19   105.9   112.4   -6.5   
14    Portland        19   49   0.279   28.5     L3    3-7    11-24    8-25   107.7   115.8   -8.1   
15    San Antonio     15   53   0.221   32.5     W1    4-6     8-24    7-29   112.4   119.8   -7.4   

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

Magic have played 3 more road games than us - hopefully a few teams can go into Orlando and knock them off.

Mitchell out for next 5 days for Cavs -- would be nice to close that gap to 1 and keep pressure on them.