nycericanguy wrote:martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:ultimately I'm not sure we have the ability to trade for either. We used alot of bullets this season. Obi, Grimes, RJ, IQ, 31st pick + 2 more seconds + Evan's expiring.DDV is nowhere near good enough to be the centerpiece of a deal for DM, no matter how many picks we add as CLE is a win now team.
The Nets actually make more sense as they are rebuilding and we could offer them 5 1sts, but that's a huge wall to break down in getting them to trade with us.
IMHO you are misreading the leverage opportunity. Knicks have enough IMO.
And we need to remove the thought of DDV or Hart going on in a trade for either Mikal or DM. That is just not happening.
maybe, but its a precarious position to be in to have to rely on "leverage".
MIA thought they had leverage but there's usually another team that jumps in.
It's true. Both guys need to force the trade. As did OG, Siakam and most other free agents that have a target destination.
Donovan has given the smoke signals. Mikal is a longer term wait cause of his contract.
Not for nothing but every other team is in that same boat.
but we paid a hefty price for OG, not like we got him at some discount b/c he forced his way here. TOR was said to want both RJ & IQ over our picks.
Siakam is almost 30 years old and a non shooter so the market was a bit different for him.
Your hefty price is not mine; I thought it was an adult trade, especially considering Precious and how it elevated and balanced the roster, both with the additions and subtractions. RJ and IQ are doing really well while Toronto is tanking and losing a lot of games and both have a lot to prove.
The leverage was used for WHERE he was going, not the exchange part; lots and lots and lots of playoff teams were lined up for OG. Siakam had both going for him.
All things are definitely not equal when looking at the Knicks and Toronto since the trade happened, but Raps are still at a bottom 6-7 team (where they want to be considering their next draft pick is top 6 protected) and the Knicks have the 6th best record in the league in that same time frame, with lots of injuries (they were ~14th a time of trade, so they made up a lot of ground with that initial post-OG spurt).