GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Burks and Bogs both shot 40 percent plus from 3 in Detroit. Stands to reason that once the starters get back, and they settle into their bench roles, that they will contribute more.

Makes no sense to complain about their performance this early, under these conditions. The best 2nd unit playmaker is Josh Hart.

Burks just played 11 min and Bogs 18 min, both with the bench. What game did you just watch? Neither one of them had any impact in their bench roles.

I watched a game with no playmaker in the second unit to get them easy looks. Whats your theory as to why their numbers have dropped? They're both very good shooters careerwise Got to be a better explanation than they just suck.

Look at Bogs numbers before tonight. They were damned good. Patience!

The no playmaker thing is huge. It is why I wanted Brogdan more than anyone. That situation is worse than before the trade because now we have point Burks at portions of the game and not much is worse than that.

Clean wrote:The funny thing is Thibs says all he does is to win. He will run a player out there for all 48 but he wont change a clearly not working starting lineup. If every third we get destroyed with the same unit why not try something different. It seems we only ever have enough juice to get back into the game. Then we get tired and the other team takes over again. If you never get in a hole maybe that scoring run will put us up by 20 instead of down by 5.

As shorthanded as we have been, Im more concerned about the decisions Thibs will make when we're near or at full strength. Like how much PT JB and Randle will get for the remainder of the regular season?

Randle was gassed his first playoffs with the Knicks, and hurt for the last one. In part because the second ankle injury happened during garbage time. When Thibs plans for more than an 82 game season, the better off we'll be.

ToddTT wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Todd?

Game thread not quite authentic until 1st pic hits.

I gotchu...

Let the game begin

- Burks with another GIANT turd but somehow a positive +/-
- Bogey with a big FAT dump
- Both of the above are playing as tough as Charmin tissue (single ply)
- Jalen needs to give the ball up and get it back ——- stop pounding ball and draining clock
- I-Hart looks a shell of player from 3-4 weeks ago (sad)
- Donte kind of playing down to career Donte level the past few (plays so hard but not finishing)
- Sims kind of worthless - despite 10 and 5
- Precious not being looked at on rolls or involved enough (Jalen isn’t seeing the bigs until last resort)

J-Hart was a absolute tiger tonight

Bench killed us - 2 vets Burks/Bogey playing like g-leaguers is not helping a team in need of a spark

We are absolutely lacking players with dribble/vision skills - remarkable how little most of our roster can create

Deuce was good but wild layup down 6 was one of many bad bad decisions in a game of bad decisions

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Burks and Bogs both shot 40 percent plus from 3 in Detroit. Stands to reason that once the starters get back, and they settle into their bench roles, that they will contribute more.

Makes no sense to complain about their performance this early, under these conditions. The best 2nd unit playmaker is Josh Hart.

Burks just played 11 min and Bogs 18 min, both with the bench. What game did you just watch? Neither one of them had any impact in their bench roles.

I watched a game with no playmaker in the second unit to get them easy looks. Whats your theory as to why their numbers have dropped? They're both very good shooters careerwise Got to be a better explanation than they just suck.

Look at Bogs numbers before tonight. They were damned good. Patience!

Biggest issue when you are struggling is that you are pressing and forcing things.
Bog said it himself last night, "I need to be more aggressive and make shots since guys are out".
Think the opposite approach needs to take place. Just go in and stay in flow of game. Hit the open man and wait for ball rotation back. They are both trying to do too much.
They will settle in. Many are seeing how it's tough to win with just ONE star. Remember everyone giving Randle a hard time not being to carry weak teams in the playoffs. We need Julius back and our one two punch that gave defenses fits. We also need OG back for defense. We were rolling in January when we had those two in the lineup.

One of Randle or OG is gonna get staggered with the bench. I think Thibs will keep Bogs in there unless his play just continues to fall off a cliff and never recovers. Precious is in a tough spot when Mitch gets back.

VDesai wrote:Knicks offensive possessions are a joke

Agree on this - basically Brunson gets over 1/2 court ——- gets trapped and retreats to 1.2 court line pounding ball……eventually swings ball to,open Hart 30 feet out who dribbles into hand-off for Donte off balance 3 from 25 feet with 1 second in the clock.

Exaggerated- sure but still a mess.

VDesai wrote:Why is Sims in at center over Precious ?

Sims offers no rim deterrent- if anything at 6’8” Precious much more impactful.

NYStateOfMind wrote:Cavs get to beat us up and score at will in the paint next game. Sims 0 blocks, he can't stop lay-ups 1 on 1. Kuminga clowned us all night, like he thought he was destroying our A-team. Tired of these punks acting the clown at MSG when they know we are big-time short-handed. Hard to watch and becoming the norm lately, especially when the refs don't give them a fighting chance. The NBA finally gets relevant basketball in NY and they allow this nonsense to continue. Call the games fair or what is the point in even playing the games? Sickening.

Biggest concerns right now over the losses are….

- Brunson moving sluggishly with no pep in step —- getting killed and lost repeatedly on D
- I-Hart is a shell of himself (not moving well and not impacting game anywhere)
- will Josh hold up
- to a lesser extent Donte has been taking some big hits under heavier minutes
- Burks.Bogey —— looking like TURDS and this could lead to Thibs cutting rotation to 7 or 8