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Garrett2010PSD
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2/8/2024  12:09 PM
DLeethal wrote:

Very interesting. Can add to depth.
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2/8/2024  12:09 PM
Greta move Bogs can fill in for Randall and OG when they are down and move to the bench when not needed and can be used in a trade later Burks replaces Grimes and maybe we keep him again for next season vet min
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2/8/2024  12:09 PM
Clean wrote:

Dare I say I love our FO
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2/8/2024  12:11 PM
Can they suit up tonight
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2/8/2024  12:11 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:To be clear, I freaking love this trade

Me too!!
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2/8/2024  12:12 PM
Clean wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Why am I less than excited?

I thought that our youth could fetch back all star talent like Donovan Mitchell or DJ Murray. Instead, we traded four of our last first round picks for what?
Out:
RJ
IQ
QG
Obi

In:
OG
Alec Burks
Bojan
Precious

Plus we net lose one 2nd round pick. And have converted the asset of Evan's big expiring.

Classic young for old.
I'm sorry, but this is not the improvement I was hoping for, nor does it get us to contention level.

You have to give to get. We decided to give up young instead of picks.

RJ did not fit.
Quick was too expensive to keep for what he is.
QG is too inconsistant
OBi we gave him away I agree here.

OG is a perfect fit.
Burks is a perfect fit when not playing PG.
Bojan is a shooter we needed.
Precious has surprisingly been a perfect fit.

I don't understand your issue with the moves we made. Young players that don't fit are not doing us any good.

I dont "like" losing Grimes for older guys but a small price to pay as this really helps. Funny thing is the complaint is this doesnt set us up for a title. Ah... have ya checked the standings?

We got much better, bigger, athletic and improved the shooting. Brunson and Randle with space are a nightmare and we have surrounded them with an army of either big athletic guys or snipers or both. This is literally how you win in this league.

Brunson's play accelerates everything. He's a star closer.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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2/8/2024  12:13 PM
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2/8/2024  12:14 PM
Yeah this is a great trade for the Knicks.

Also, makes the play off run more interesting.
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2/8/2024  12:14 PM
VDesai wrote:Knicks ARE loaded up with 40% 3 pt shooters with real volume

Bojan
Brunson
DDV
Burks
Even Deuce!
OG (ok just under 40% but he has been money)

What I've always wanted. 3pt shooting. And an elite PG
Dreams come true.

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2/8/2024  12:14 PM
SergioNYK wrote:Honestly hate losing Grimes. He's started to come back around after a slow start to the season and has been one of the best defenders on the team. Sad that we've traded away all the kids and draft picks recently.

But Burks is a Thibs fav and should help and fit in nicely as the backup PG/ball handler and you can still keep Deuce in the rotation so that's good. Not a huge fan of Bogdanovic. He's old and doesn't play any defense and I predict will get the Fournier treatment after a few games.

Would have preferred Brogdon tbh.

I think Bogs will surprise people. He plays with a much higher motor than Fournier and is a much more fiery player. He battles.
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2/8/2024  12:16 PM
Crazy idea but the numbers should work to re-route Bojan to Atlanta for DJM
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2/8/2024  12:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2024  12:18 PM
Garrett2010PSD wrote:
DLeethal wrote:

Very interesting. Can add to depth.

Leon playing chess.

There's also implications for the cap going forward. Not extending IQ and Grimes and hanging on to #1's to keep youth coming in (I hope). And maybe most of all there is opportunity to go for it now. Knicks aren't favorites, but maybe they can pull a Heat. Opportunity can fade fast.
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Rookie wrote:Crazy idea but the numbers should work to re-route Bojan to Atlanta for DJM

Ship sailed ... we added without subtracting much and without disrupting chemistry. Both guys should slide right in and fit seamlessly just like OG.
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2/8/2024  12:23 PM
DLeethal wrote:

Just realized that Bojan will start next to OG until Randle gets back.

Brunson
Donte
OG
Bogdanovic
iHart

Deuce
Burks
Hart
Precious
DLeethal
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2/8/2024  12:24 PM
Lots of points in the paint here, not a guy who is allergic to scoring off the bounce or inside the arc.

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2/8/2024  12:25 PM
DLeethal wrote:Lots of points in the paint here, not a guy who is allergic to scoring off the bounce or inside the arc.

Its interesting. I'm not being negative here at all, but trying to figure out why his rebounding numbers are so low. Is it a consequence of a high # of long-distance shots/leaking out early?

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2/8/2024  12:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2024  12:27 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:Why am I less than excited?

I thought that our youth could fetch back all star talent like Donovan Mitchell or DJ Murray. Instead, we traded four of our last first round picks for what?
Out:
RJ
IQ
QG
Obi

In:
OG
Alec Burks
Bojan
Precious

Plus we net lose one 2nd round pick. And have converted the asset of Evan's big expiring.

Classic young for old.
I'm sorry, but this is not the improvement I was hoping for, nor does it get us to contention level.

Its about contending while Brunson is still one of the best PGs in the league. I doubt the FO expected DDV to play this well. Knew that Thibs wanted to keep IQ as a 6th man, and IQ didnt want that. Also wanted to get paid. Knew that the offense brought the pts, but not the chemistry with RJ/JB/Randle.

My guess is that the remainder of the season is about seeing how far we go, without adding elite talent. See which players demonstrate that they can help the Knicks contend, and move from there. With those 1st round picks still intact.

The FO made these moves,based on the facts on the ground. Its about trying to win a chip' within Brunson's window. Which you never know how long will last. Especially the way he plays.

Burks should help Bojan get up to speed on what Thibs expects from his players..in more detail.
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