martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:ESOMKnicks, hopefully you will find this completely ironic.

My underlying premise is that competitors complete against one another. You don't deny this but don't think that avenue can come through the Knicks. [I hope I got this right.]

I keep asking you if you have a background in owning your own business or work in related.

You avoid responding. You post some tangentially random article link.

I tell you that I have owned my own business and work within a field where this happens a lot (I want you to get to know me and my background) and repeat my request to you to see if you have similar.

You avoid responding and (repeatedly) post some more links.

I tell you again that I am genuinely interested in your background so it can help me understand your perspective and background on this, especially since I have just shared the same to you.

You, once again, repeating the same tactic as you did before, post links about repeatedly saying the same thing over and over and over again.

Are you following these completely ironic, repeat breadcrumbs that keep leading back into an infinite circle?

Or do I have to have to spell even this out to you and remind you that competitors compete in ways you probably are not experienced with? This is Wolf of Wall Street level **** where millions are on the line, not 2 lemonade stands across the street from each other where they wave back and forth to each other and drink half the lemonade mom just brought out and are gonna play hide and seek later on.

In the last decade, has any high level CAA person become the CEO of MSG? Has any head of basketball operations type from CAA left to run one of MSG's sports teams? And is that person still very well connected back to CAA? Are MSG and CAA in similar business circles? Is it possible each has a mutually beneficial relationship while also being sharks against one another at the right times? Would, perhaps, MSG (entertainment venue company) be tightly bound to CAA (world's leading entertainment and sports agency) who would reciprocate that love and have relations with MSG company and Dolan and Sphere, etc.? How deep is that relationship? How mutually beneficial do each of those businesses need to sometimes look out for each other? Do Leon and Rich Paul butt heads and wanna rip each other's throats out but also smile for the camera and buy each other cigars and bourbon? Probably.

Like that.

Wolf of Wall Street 201

I await the inevitability of the links!

Martin, your line of questioning about owning one's own business has nothing to do with the situation around the Knicks and CAA. That is why I called it non sequitur. Suppose I run a falafel shop, which competes with a hot dog shop across the street. What does it have to do with the Knicks and CAA? Exactly - nothing.

Listen, this debate is getting old and ridiculous. If you want to believe unsubstantiated and, quite frankly, illogical rumors about some rifts with the Knicks over CAA, be my guest. I think it is all a load of horse crap and paranoia that makes zero sense, and your claims about being an experienced business owner are hardly proof to the contrary.

I have no more to say, you may have the last word if you wish.

No worries. I was trying to add a layer of experience and perspective. I will leave it be.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Lebron is setting NY up to come here as a player. I think he is setting LAL up to add him to ownership, much like Magic. Lebron isn’t trying to be like Mike. He doesn’t want to be a part owner of a lowly Bobcat franchise. It takes decades to create the institutional knowledge to truly compete in the NBA. I think he is following the model created by Magic Johnson where he uses his personality and talent to run a business empire not just headline an NBA franchise. And I think in order to get ownership on LAL, he needs to have NYKs salivating at the opportunity to have a basketball legend representing them in the public spotlight. We know Dolan is ok with that - he tried it with IT. Now, this doesn’t mean he doesn’t consider NYK next year. How better to move into ownership than through starting with a chip? We know he wants a Las Vegas team, but that’s subject to higher and better offers. And I’m not sure Lebron is ready for Las Vegas politics. He can be 20 years ahead of schedule if he gets into NYK ownership.

In short, I think this is setting up for post-NBA life. But I think his priority is LAL and NYK is being set up to be a bargaining chip in his NBA ownership plans. PR nightmare for NY if they get left at the altar.

Tough position, but the only way to protect NY is to keep winning basketball games.

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:ESOMKnicks, hopefully you will find this completely ironic.

My underlying premise is that competitors complete against one another. You don't deny this but don't think that avenue can come through the Knicks. [I hope I got this right.]

I keep asking you if you have a background in owning your own business or work in related.

You avoid responding. You post some tangentially random article link.

I tell you that I have owned my own business and work within a field where this happens a lot (I want you to get to know me and my background) and repeat my request to you to see if you have similar.

You avoid responding and (repeatedly) post some more links.

I tell you again that I am genuinely interested in your background so it can help me understand your perspective and background on this, especially since I have just shared the same to you.

You, once again, repeating the same tactic as you did before, post links about repeatedly saying the same thing over and over and over again.

Are you following these completely ironic, repeat breadcrumbs that keep leading back into an infinite circle?

Or do I have to have to spell even this out to you and remind you that competitors compete in ways you probably are not experienced with? This is Wolf of Wall Street level **** where millions are on the line, not 2 lemonade stands across the street from each other where they wave back and forth to each other and drink half the lemonade mom just brought out and are gonna play hide and seek later on.

In the last decade, has any high level CAA person become the CEO of MSG? Has any head of basketball operations type from CAA left to run one of MSG's sports teams? And is that person still very well connected back to CAA? Are MSG and CAA in similar business circles? Is it possible each has a mutually beneficial relationship while also being sharks against one another at the right times? Would, perhaps, MSG (entertainment venue company) be tightly bound to CAA (world's leading entertainment and sports agency) who would reciprocate that love and have relations with MSG company and Dolan and Sphere, etc.? How deep is that relationship? How mutually beneficial do each of those businesses need to sometimes look out for each other? Do Leon and Rich Paul butt heads and wanna rip each other's throats out but also smile for the camera and buy each other cigars and bourbon? Probably.

Like that.

Wolf of Wall Street 201

I await the inevitability of the links!

Martin, your line of questioning about owning one's own business has nothing to do with the situation around the Knicks and CAA. That is why I called it non sequitur. Suppose I run a falafel shop, which competes with a hot dog shop across the street. What does it have to do with the Knicks and CAA? Exactly - nothing.

Listen, this debate is getting old and ridiculous. If you want to believe unsubstantiated and, quite frankly, illogical rumors about some rifts with the Knicks over CAA, be my guest. I think it is all a load of horse crap and paranoia that makes zero sense, and your claims about being an experienced business owner are hardly proof to the contrary.

I have no more to say, you may have the last word if you wish.

No worries. I was trying to add a layer of experience and perspective. I will leave it be.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Lebron is setting NY up to come here as a player. I think he is setting LAL up to add him to ownership, much like Magic. Lebron isn’t trying to be like Mike. He doesn’t want to be a part owner of a lowly Bobcat franchise. It takes decades to create the institutional knowledge to truly compete in the NBA. I think he is following the model created by Magic Johnson where he uses his personality and talent to run a business empire not just headline an NBA franchise. And I think in order to get ownership on LAL, he needs to have NYKs salivating at the opportunity to have a basketball legend representing them in the public spotlight. We know Dolan is ok with that - he tried it with IT. Now, this doesn’t mean he doesn’t consider NYK next year. How better to move into ownership than through starting with a chip? We know he wants a Las Vegas team, but that’s subject to higher and better offers. And I’m not sure Lebron is ready for Las Vegas politics. He can be 20 years ahead of schedule if he gets into NYK ownership.

In short, I think this is setting up for post-NBA life. But I think his priority is LAL and NYK is being set up to be a bargaining chip in his NBA ownership plans. PR nightmare for NY if they get left at the altar.

Tough position, but the only way to protect NY is to keep winning basketball games.

Vegas. LeBron would perhaps want to own that new Vegas team.

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:ESOMKnicks, hopefully you will find this completely ironic.

My underlying premise is that competitors complete against one another. You don't deny this but don't think that avenue can come through the Knicks. [I hope I got this right.]

I keep asking you if you have a background in owning your own business or work in related.

You avoid responding. You post some tangentially random article link.

I tell you that I have owned my own business and work within a field where this happens a lot (I want you to get to know me and my background) and repeat my request to you to see if you have similar.

You avoid responding and (repeatedly) post some more links.

I tell you again that I am genuinely interested in your background so it can help me understand your perspective and background on this, especially since I have just shared the same to you.

You, once again, repeating the same tactic as you did before, post links about repeatedly saying the same thing over and over and over again.

Are you following these completely ironic, repeat breadcrumbs that keep leading back into an infinite circle?

Or do I have to have to spell even this out to you and remind you that competitors compete in ways you probably are not experienced with? This is Wolf of Wall Street level **** where millions are on the line, not 2 lemonade stands across the street from each other where they wave back and forth to each other and drink half the lemonade mom just brought out and are gonna play hide and seek later on.

In the last decade, has any high level CAA person become the CEO of MSG? Has any head of basketball operations type from CAA left to run one of MSG's sports teams? And is that person still very well connected back to CAA? Are MSG and CAA in similar business circles? Is it possible each has a mutually beneficial relationship while also being sharks against one another at the right times? Would, perhaps, MSG (entertainment venue company) be tightly bound to CAA (world's leading entertainment and sports agency) who would reciprocate that love and have relations with MSG company and Dolan and Sphere, etc.? How deep is that relationship? How mutually beneficial do each of those businesses need to sometimes look out for each other? Do Leon and Rich Paul butt heads and wanna rip each other's throats out but also smile for the camera and buy each other cigars and bourbon? Probably.

Like that.

Wolf of Wall Street 201

I await the inevitability of the links!

Martin, your line of questioning about owning one's own business has nothing to do with the situation around the Knicks and CAA. That is why I called it non sequitur. Suppose I run a falafel shop, which competes with a hot dog shop across the street. What does it have to do with the Knicks and CAA? Exactly - nothing.

Listen, this debate is getting old and ridiculous. If you want to believe unsubstantiated and, quite frankly, illogical rumors about some rifts with the Knicks over CAA, be my guest. I think it is all a load of horse crap and paranoia that makes zero sense, and your claims about being an experienced business owner are hardly proof to the contrary.

I have no more to say, you may have the last word if you wish.

No worries. I was trying to add a layer of experience and perspective. I will leave it be.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Lebron is setting NY up to come here as a player. I think he is setting LAL up to add him to ownership, much like Magic. Lebron isn’t trying to be like Mike. He doesn’t want to be a part owner of a lowly Bobcat franchise. It takes decades to create the institutional knowledge to truly compete in the NBA. I think he is following the model created by Magic Johnson where he uses his personality and talent to run a business empire not just headline an NBA franchise. And I think in order to get ownership on LAL, he needs to have NYKs salivating at the opportunity to have a basketball legend representing them in the public spotlight. We know Dolan is ok with that - he tried it with IT. Now, this doesn’t mean he doesn’t consider NYK next year. How better to move into ownership than through starting with a chip? We know he wants a Las Vegas team, but that’s subject to higher and better offers. And I’m not sure Lebron is ready for Las Vegas politics. He can be 20 years ahead of schedule if he gets into NYK ownership.

In short, I think this is setting up for post-NBA life. But I think his priority is LAL and NYK is being set up to be a bargaining chip in his NBA ownership plans. PR nightmare for NY if they get left at the altar.

Tough position, but the only way to protect NY is to keep winning basketball games.

Vegas. LeBron would perhaps want to own that new Vegas team.

I mentioned that.

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:ESOMKnicks, hopefully you will find this completely ironic.

My underlying premise is that competitors complete against one another. You don't deny this but don't think that avenue can come through the Knicks. [I hope I got this right.]

I keep asking you if you have a background in owning your own business or work in related.

You avoid responding. You post some tangentially random article link.

I tell you that I have owned my own business and work within a field where this happens a lot (I want you to get to know me and my background) and repeat my request to you to see if you have similar.

You avoid responding and (repeatedly) post some more links.

I tell you again that I am genuinely interested in your background so it can help me understand your perspective and background on this, especially since I have just shared the same to you.

You, once again, repeating the same tactic as you did before, post links about repeatedly saying the same thing over and over and over again.

Are you following these completely ironic, repeat breadcrumbs that keep leading back into an infinite circle?

Or do I have to have to spell even this out to you and remind you that competitors compete in ways you probably are not experienced with? This is Wolf of Wall Street level **** where millions are on the line, not 2 lemonade stands across the street from each other where they wave back and forth to each other and drink half the lemonade mom just brought out and are gonna play hide and seek later on.

In the last decade, has any high level CAA person become the CEO of MSG? Has any head of basketball operations type from CAA left to run one of MSG's sports teams? And is that person still very well connected back to CAA? Are MSG and CAA in similar business circles? Is it possible each has a mutually beneficial relationship while also being sharks against one another at the right times? Would, perhaps, MSG (entertainment venue company) be tightly bound to CAA (world's leading entertainment and sports agency) who would reciprocate that love and have relations with MSG company and Dolan and Sphere, etc.? How deep is that relationship? How mutually beneficial do each of those businesses need to sometimes look out for each other? Do Leon and Rich Paul butt heads and wanna rip each other's throats out but also smile for the camera and buy each other cigars and bourbon? Probably.

Like that.

Wolf of Wall Street 201

I await the inevitability of the links!

Martin, your line of questioning about owning one's own business has nothing to do with the situation around the Knicks and CAA. That is why I called it non sequitur. Suppose I run a falafel shop, which competes with a hot dog shop across the street. What does it have to do with the Knicks and CAA? Exactly - nothing.

Listen, this debate is getting old and ridiculous. If you want to believe unsubstantiated and, quite frankly, illogical rumors about some rifts with the Knicks over CAA, be my guest. I think it is all a load of horse crap and paranoia that makes zero sense, and your claims about being an experienced business owner are hardly proof to the contrary.

I have no more to say, you may have the last word if you wish.

No worries. I was trying to add a layer of experience and perspective. I will leave it be.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Lebron is setting NY up to come here as a player. I think he is setting LAL up to add him to ownership, much like Magic. Lebron isn’t trying to be like Mike. He doesn’t want to be a part owner of a lowly Bobcat franchise. It takes decades to create the institutional knowledge to truly compete in the NBA. I think he is following the model created by Magic Johnson where he uses his personality and talent to run a business empire not just headline an NBA franchise. And I think in order to get ownership on LAL, he needs to have NYKs salivating at the opportunity to have a basketball legend representing them in the public spotlight. We know Dolan is ok with that - he tried it with IT. Now, this doesn’t mean he doesn’t consider NYK next year. How better to move into ownership than through starting with a chip? We know he wants a Las Vegas team, but that’s subject to higher and better offers. And I’m not sure Lebron is ready for Las Vegas politics. He can be 20 years ahead of schedule if he gets into NYK ownership.

In short, I think this is setting up for post-NBA life. But I think his priority is LAL and NYK is being set up to be a bargaining chip in his NBA ownership plans. PR nightmare for NY if they get left at the altar.

Tough position, but the only way to protect NY is to keep winning basketball games.

Vegas. LeBron would perhaps want to own that new Vegas team.

I mentioned that.

My small morning mind only made it to 3rd sentence before I saw lots of Lakers. lol my bad

I am excessively wordy.