Nalod wrote:WOrried about OG also. DOn’t want to wake up one day and read he is having Tommy John surgery and out for a while.
Did Raptors sell us damaged goods? Hope not.
Shit happens. Lessor the better!

I’m with you on this!!

Raptors definitely sold damaged goods but I’m sure the Knicks were aware. Tommy John is a bit extreme so I bet he is dealing with sort of golfers/tennis elbow issue, which is a pain in the ass on its own.

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:WOrried about OG also. DOn’t want to wake up one day and read he is having Tommy John surgery and out for a while.
Did Raptors sell us damaged goods? Hope not.
Shit happens. Lessor the better!

I’m with you on this!!

Raptors definitely sold damaged goods but I’m sure the Knicks were aware. Tommy John is a bit extreme so I bet he is dealing with sort of golfers/tennis elbow issue, which is a pain in the ass on its own.

Interesting scenario. The Knicks have long tried to pry OG away from Toronto, but they wanted a King's ransom for him. Out of the blue, he's available. Then the Knicks find out that he's playing through pain and might need off season surgery so he's available, and the Knicks want him so badly, they make a deal, but insist on them throwing in Achiuwa and Flynn. The Knicks thinking long term while getting some experienced depth behind Randle and the backcourt, whilst Toronto is thinking total rebuild by building around up 'n coming youngsters' RJ and IQ and an extra pick

Possible I suppose...hmmm

DLeethal wrote:Leon's son is OG's agent. They didn't sell us anything we weren't aware of.

Truth

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BingBong wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:WOrried about OG also. DOn’t want to wake up one day and read he is having Tommy John surgery and out for a while.
Did Raptors sell us damaged goods? Hope not.
Shit happens. Lessor the better!

I’m with you on this!!

Raptors definitely sold damaged goods but I’m sure the Knicks were aware. Tommy John is a bit extreme so I bet he is dealing with sort of golfers/tennis elbow issue, which is a pain in the ass on its own.

Interesting scenario. The Knicks have long tried to pry OG away from Toronto, but they wanted a King's ransom for him. Out of the blue, he's available. Then the Knicks find out that he's playing through pain and might need off season surgery so he's available, and the Knicks want him so badly, they make a deal, but insist on them throwing in Achiuwa and Flynn. The Knicks thinking long term while getting some experienced depth behind Randle and the backcourt, whilst Toronto is thinking total rebuild by building around up 'n coming youngsters' RJ and IQ and an extra pick

Possible I suppose...hmmm

I read they felt they were never going to re-sign OG, so getting what they did was a huge steal.

jaydh wrote:

BingBong wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:WOrried about OG also. DOn’t want to wake up one day and read he is having Tommy John surgery and out for a while.
Did Raptors sell us damaged goods? Hope not.
Shit happens. Lessor the better!

I’m with you on this!!

Raptors definitely sold damaged goods but I’m sure the Knicks were aware. Tommy John is a bit extreme so I bet he is dealing with sort of golfers/tennis elbow issue, which is a pain in the ass on its own.

Interesting scenario. The Knicks have long tried to pry OG away from Toronto, but they wanted a King's ransom for him. Out of the blue, he's available. Then the Knicks find out that he's playing through pain and might need off season surgery so he's available, and the Knicks want him so badly, they make a deal, but insist on them throwing in Achiuwa and Flynn. The Knicks thinking long term while getting some experienced depth behind Randle and the backcourt, whilst Toronto is thinking total rebuild by building around up 'n coming youngsters' RJ and IQ and an extra pick

Possible I suppose...hmmm

I read they felt they were never going to re-sign OG, so getting what they did was a huge steal.

Not like he was walking. There was a market for him and we won the bidding.
They were not resigning him but they were sure gonna trade him. Tried before so its no secret. The price went down.
To some teams he is more valuable than to others.
For what he did on knicks is proved the price was good. WE did not steal him, and we did not get fleeced.
Raptors are rebooting and while any team can use an OG, they decided to allocate resources elsewhere.
On a team like the Pacers OG has lessor value than to the knicks.
I don't agree "what they did was a huge steal". It implies they had few options.
FVV was a different story. The offers perhaps included taking back salary they did not want to, and Freds salary demands would not have worked on Raptors. Should they have traded him sooner? In hindsight of course. My guess is they did think he'd command a deal like he got and at the end of the day there was not a suitable trade at the time that motivated them. How do I know this? They never made a trade!!!
Supply and demand. Capitalism at its best.

DLeethal wrote:

Julius Randle is showing "positive progression" as he rehabs a dislocated shoulder, reported Ian Begley of SNY.

Begley adds that the Knicks are gaining optimism that he could potentially return this season.

“I’ve heard during this period that there’s been some positive progression here during the rehab and I think that’s left people with even more reason to be optimistic that Randle will be back at some point this season,” said Begley.

Randle will undergo 2-3 more weeks of rehab. Both parties will then make a decision as to whether Randle will return or have surgery and miss the season.

Good news I suppose

This has me changing my outlook.
Thought he would be back in a couple of weeks after the MRI.
Now thinking it is worse.
Only because when I had a shoulder injury, I started feeling better within two weeks.
However, that was followed with no progression for the next two weeks. Went back to surgeon and he said it was clear my issue could only be resolved through surgery.

Hopefully that's not the case.

Btw, what the general consensus if JR comes back and does not play up to All Star caliber?
Probably just more Trade Randle trades

HofstraBBall wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

Julius Randle is showing "positive progression" as he rehabs a dislocated shoulder, reported Ian Begley of SNY.

Begley adds that the Knicks are gaining optimism that he could potentially return this season.

“I’ve heard during this period that there’s been some positive progression here during the rehab and I think that’s left people with even more reason to be optimistic that Randle will be back at some point this season,” said Begley.

Randle will undergo 2-3 more weeks of rehab. Both parties will then make a decision as to whether Randle will return or have surgery and miss the season.

Good news I suppose

This has me changing my outlook.
Thought he would be back in a couple of weeks after the MRI.
Now thinking it is worse.
Only because when I had a shoulder injury, I started feeling better within two weeks.
However, that was followed with no progression for the next two weeks. Went back to surgeon and he said it was clear my issue could only be resolved through surgery.

Hopefully that's not the case.

Btw, what the general consensus if JR comes back and does not play up to All Star caliber?
Probably just more Trade Randle trades

That's what you get when he does play at All Star level!