With that said, so long as OG is healthy, his defensive boost to the team gives us an intangible chance to win even if our offense is sputtering. While our offense is often firing on all cylinders with him in the game (thus his brilliant +/- numbers)... it gives a lot of leeway to have a less than optimal offense. Thus less of a need for the offensive punch of RJ/Quickley.

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Yes, Grimes shines in garbage time. But those were nice takes to the rim. High difficulty shots. I get the feeling we would have seen this part of his game sooner, if Grimes had stayed on the bench for another season or two.

Might end up being a late bloomer on another team. Dont believe his game has flatlined like Frank.

he's perplexing b/c he plays with such confidence and aggression in garbage time and even finishes at the rim. Makes you want to believe but then I remember Obi used to average 30 in April games.

Just keep in mind how his high school to college career went. I see a ton of kids like this, they are slow adjusters. But when they settle in, they shine as they should IF the talent is there and things work.

Grimes could fail but I still see it for him when he gets over his mental hump

end of day I'm not trading or benching Grimes for anyone that isn't a long term piece. I mean he's averaging 9.2ppg since the day in just 18mpg. granted inflated by blowouts but it took 2.5 years for it to CLICK for IQ and for the game to slow down so I'm not out on Grimes just yet.

100% same.

I am officially off the Dejounte trade train in lieu of keeping Grimes and going another route to upgrade.

I’m not off the trade Grimes train per se but I find myself very Luke warm on Murray after watching him for 4-5 games. Lot of skill but something missing that I can’t put my finger on —- maybe it’s just that he would need to start.

KnickDanger wrote:

martin wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Rookie wrote:ESPN NBA Today - “we are going to be saying very positive things about the Knicks tomorrow after their complete beat down of the champs last night.”

Zach Lowe - “time to start cashing in those sick days”

Ramona Shelburne - “uh, I’m going to be very late for work. I hear traffic is going to be very very bad tomorrow”

lol at all the asshats at ESPN. Stephen A is still the absolute worst Knicks fan ever

Fixed. Not sure he is actually a Knick fan. He just plays one on TV. Kind of.

Was reading a yahoo sports article by a guy named Ben Rohrbach - "Should We Be Excited about Knicks Basketball?" To me it was typical of how the, um, "asshats" are repositioning themselves and their LOL Knicks schtick now that their good play can't be ignored. Basically saying the Knicks have been horrible for a long time (was true) and implying it's pathetic to get excited about being Eastern Conference 4th seed. There is a grudging notice of Leon Rose's change of approach, but not that this brick by brick philosophy has been going on for four years now. As far as this guy and the other gasbags are concerned all Knicks trashing was justified until now.

It doesn't matter I know. I just don't care for these phonies.

Watch this to set you right

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/ringer/status/1750971965064814599

I can dig it.

There's no question that post OG trade Knicks have blossomed in a way even us homers couldn't have hoped for. And although I know the team will have their stumbles, I don't have the same beaten dog fear of the shoe dropping that is a Knicks fan's legacy. There's too much good stuff in place in terms of players, coach, and front office. Bring it on!

Amen, you have said this perfectly and this has probably set in at the fan base level, even amongst the most MS pessimistic. Knicks fans have collectively carried this PTSD for so long and we’ve finally found a therapist who is doing good work and we are all starting to smile again and enjoy each game, with vibes of late 60’s Knicks era optimism.

martin wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

martin wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Rookie wrote:ESPN NBA Today - “we are going to be saying very positive things about the Knicks tomorrow after their complete beat down of the champs last night.”

Zach Lowe - “time to start cashing in those sick days”

Ramona Shelburne - “uh, I’m going to be very late for work. I hear traffic is going to be very very bad tomorrow”

lol at all the asshats at ESPN. Stephen A is still the absolute worst Knicks fan ever

Fixed. Not sure he is actually a Knick fan. He just plays one on TV. Kind of.

Was reading a yahoo sports article by a guy named Ben Rohrbach - "Should We Be Excited about Knicks Basketball?" To me it was typical of how the, um, "asshats" are repositioning themselves and their LOL Knicks schtick now that their good play can't be ignored. Basically saying the Knicks have been horrible for a long time (was true) and implying it's pathetic to get excited about being Eastern Conference 4th seed. There is a grudging notice of Leon Rose's change of approach, but not that this brick by brick philosophy has been going on for four years now. As far as this guy and the other gasbags are concerned all Knicks trashing was justified until now.

It doesn't matter I know. I just don't care for these phonies.

Watch this to set you right

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/ringer/status/1750971965064814599

I can dig it.

There's no question that post OG trade Knicks have blossomed in a way even us homers couldn't have hoped for. And although I know the team will have their stumbles, I don't have the same beaten dog fear of the shoe dropping that is a Knicks fan's legacy. There's too much good stuff in place in terms of players, coach, and front office. Bring it on!

Amen, you have said this perfectly and this has probably set in at the fan base level, even amongst the most MS pessimistic. Knicks fans have collectively carried this PTSD for so long and we’ve finally found a therapist who is doing good work and we are all starting to smile again and enjoy each game, with vibes of late 60’s Knicks era optimism.

Amen.