newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

You are welcome, researcher. Get your PhD level research on

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Wait, you my Asian brother? Cause I thought you were my brotha brother

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:
You are welcome, researcher. Get your PhD level research on

https://www.instagram.com/dayneboard/?hl=en

Wait, you my Asian brother? Cause I thought you were my brotha brother

My Mother's from Ghana Africa, my Father's from South Carolina. My Pop a black man with real light skin. My last name is Irish tho.

The kids visual representation of the joy inside while doing the um "research".

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:At this point, I think I would eat anything if it meant the Knicks avoided Simmons at all costs

Load and clear buddy, we hear you. Also, kudos and thanks for the sacrifice.

Need the name, for research purposes.

Strangely, there are a long line of researches working on that very engaging research project. Heads down and we haven't heard from those guys in years, still working on the problem. I guess.

She my new Rebecca and Tina before her.

There are somethings I would eat without asking anything in return...
Also, hate to break to you...

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:At this point, I think I would eat anything if it meant the Knicks avoided Simmons at all costs

Load and clear buddy, we hear you. Also, kudos and thanks for the sacrifice.

Need the name, for research purposes.

Strangely, there are a long line of researches working on that very engaging research project. Heads down and we haven't heard from those guys in years, still working on the problem. I guess.

She my new Rebecca and Tina before her.

There are somethings I would eat without asking anything in return...
Also, hate to break to you...

I need to punch a fool through the interwebs

C'mon man. You know what'll cheer you up? How about another one of those Mikal Bridges trade proposals?

EwingsGlass wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Knicks: Mikal, Tari Eason, Oldapido, Jake Langdon (last 2 salary filler). They get their guy and more bench (Alpha gets his wet dream on)

Houston: Grimes, Mitch, Dorian Finley Smith, some Knicks picks. Vets they desire.

Brooklyn: Jalen Green, Amen Thompson, Fournier, Brooklyn picks back, NY picks. Young guys to tank with.

You get the gist.

Ok. Not to turn this into a “Trade Randle” thread. But hear me out. Send the Houston kids home. Everybody is happy.

Houston gets
Randle
Grimes
2 #1 picks from NYK

Brooklyn gets
Jalen Green
Jabari Smith
2 Nets picks back from Houston

NY gets
Mikal Bridges
Tari Eason

Add filler as needed, but it’s close without.

Brunson / McBride
Bridges / DDV
Anunoby / Hart
Eason / Achiuwa
Hartenstein / Robinson /Sims

Still have room to seal a bit.

So you're trading Randle and 2 firsts for Bridges
and Grimes for Eeason?
And counting on Eason as your number one PF in a chip team?

The “counting on Eason as the number one PF on a chip team” is probably an overstatement but otherwise yes. I am certainly buying Tari Eason’s upside, effort and positional size versus Grimes. Without disrespect to Grimes at all, it’s just a function of positional need. I am trading for elite effort and off the ball movement at the PF. He has stated he kind of likes coming off the bench, so I am not sure he is starting lineup overall, but that lineup around Brunson is probably the most effort any team cut out on any floor ever. Measure it in terms of effort more than anything else.

Now, I am open to your opinion on Tari Eason. I ****ing love this kid. Tell me what you like or don’t like about him. His other metrics are “meh” right now. I’m kind of buying upside here. He’s like the PF version of Grimes with better positional size and biometrics.

The thing about Tari is that he shoots 3s best from the top right of the court. Exactly where the Knicks (and Randle) is the worst. So, he actually brings symmetry to spreading the floor for Brunson, Bridges and Anunoby. And he moves really well without the ball. Something Randle does not do.

Mikal vs Randle is just a gotta give to get model. Many won’t or don’t like it. DDV is more than holding his own in the starting lineup such that the need isn’t really there. Tari kind of adds passing lane disruption that DDV brings, while Mikal brings a second point of attack defender. This is less likely to happen.

You lose Randle’s passing and rebounding. Something I try and make up with Hartenstein as the starting C. But I see this as a 4-1 motion offense with Hart at the pivot.

Guess we disagree on value of Bridges vs Randle. And value of Devo.
Imo, Randle is a three time All Star, Eeason is a young question mark.
Devo has done as well as can be expected since inserted in the SL. Don't see Bridge coming in and doing much better without disturbing JB's and JR's flow. As did RJ.

HofstraBBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Knicks: Mikal, Tari Eason, Oldapido, Jake Langdon (last 2 salary filler). They get their guy and more bench (Alpha gets his wet dream on)

Houston: Grimes, Mitch, Dorian Finley Smith, some Knicks picks. Vets they desire.

Brooklyn: Jalen Green, Amen Thompson, Fournier, Brooklyn picks back, NY picks. Young guys to tank with.

You get the gist.

Ok. Not to turn this into a “Trade Randle” thread. But hear me out. Send the Houston kids home. Everybody is happy.

Houston gets
Randle
Grimes
2 #1 picks from NYK

Brooklyn gets
Jalen Green
Jabari Smith
2 Nets picks back from Houston

NY gets
Mikal Bridges
Tari Eason

Add filler as needed, but it’s close without.

Brunson / McBride
Bridges / DDV
Anunoby / Hart
Eason / Achiuwa
Hartenstein / Robinson /Sims

Still have room to seal a bit.

So you're trading Randle and 2 firsts for Bridges
and Grimes for Eeason?
And counting on Eason as your number one PF in a chip team?

The “counting on Eason as the number one PF on a chip team” is probably an overstatement but otherwise yes. I am certainly buying Tari Eason’s upside, effort and positional size versus Grimes. Without disrespect to Grimes at all, it’s just a function of positional need. I am trading for elite effort and off the ball movement at the PF. He has stated he kind of likes coming off the bench, so I am not sure he is starting lineup overall, but that lineup around Brunson is probably the most effort any team cut out on any floor ever. Measure it in terms of effort more than anything else.

Now, I am open to your opinion on Tari Eason. I ****ing love this kid. Tell me what you like or don’t like about him. His other metrics are “meh” right now. I’m kind of buying upside here. He’s like the PF version of Grimes with better positional size and biometrics.

The thing about Tari is that he shoots 3s best from the top right of the court. Exactly where the Knicks (and Randle) is the worst. So, he actually brings symmetry to spreading the floor for Brunson, Bridges and Anunoby. And he moves really well without the ball. Something Randle does not do.

Mikal vs Randle is just a gotta give to get model. Many won’t or don’t like it. DDV is more than holding his own in the starting lineup such that the need isn’t really there. Tari kind of adds passing lane disruption that DDV brings, while Mikal brings a second point of attack defender. This is less likely to happen.

You lose Randle’s passing and rebounding. Something I try and make up with Hartenstein as the starting C. But I see this as a 4-1 motion offense with Hart at the pivot.

Guess we disagree on value of Bridges vs Randle. And value of Devo.
Imo, Randle is a three time All Star, Eeason is a young question mark.
Devo has done as well as can be expected since inserted in the SL. Don't see Bridge coming in and doing much better without disturbing JB's and JR's flow. As did RJ.

Mikal is a different player than RJ. Mikal came in the league as a 3&D player who developed his on ball shot creation ability over these years. RJ came in the league as an on ball scorer/passer who still needs to develop more consistent outside shooting. Mikal defensively can guard 1-4. RJ is inconsistent defensively.

Mikal can easily play and excel with a 3&D role with the starting unit which RJ struggled with. And be featured scorer when Brunson & Randle rest. He isn't a player who needs to be ball dominant to be effective and produce like RJ. Not sure why you view him this way. Him developing his shot creation ability is actually the bigger surprise.

He already has chemistry with Brunson, DDV, & Hart. They already know each others games.

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:
You are welcome, researcher. Get your PhD level research on

https://www.instagram.com/dayneboard/?hl=en

Wait, you my Asian brother? Cause I thought you were my brotha brother

My Mother's from Ghana Africa, my Father's from South Carolina. My Pop a black man with real light skin. My last name is Irish tho.

The kids visual representation of the joy inside while doing the um "research".

I was joking

If I recall correctly, we have met. One of the get together games, possibly the BRIGGS ticket purchase game, think you sat behind me.

Yea that's right we did meet. Was a DJ organized function. My bros made us like 3 hours late so missed the pre game dinner for formally meet everyone. Showed up at halftime to Knicks getting stomped out by like 60pts vs the KG lead Wolves. Was able to meet you, DJ, & TMS. Enyspree was chatting it up with 2 ladies so left him alone and didn't formally meet him.

Wish I was able to make the pre game.

Classic Eny.

I recall you having someone with you and forgot it was your bro. Good times and glad to have met.

I brought three of them, why we were late smh.

Young man is the face of a faceless franchise. While they are listless and without a clear path he is a piece to build with. How? Phuck if I know.
Not a free agent for another year and a half. Can he do the "I want out"?
Or "I want extension now please.....".
Winning is nice, but so is multigenerational wealth.
He could get traded to a team that wants to win now, and have no money later.
Lets stop pretending we know how he feels. We don't. And I don't see a path for him other than knick fans and Villanova fans.
its a nice thought.

DM: I can see him moved but if path is here or BKN its a three way. Certainly not this week. They in as much as we are!
They would want a starter to pair with Garland. This is predicated on him not extending and pinky swearing he is going to be a free agent.
So what would Cavs want? PIcks? Not really if they still think they can win. They want to get better.
How they do that and we do too? DM for Evan, Grimes, and picks don't make them better. OKC got lots to offer, but DM wants to go east, not south west.
Is he the missing piece?

Liked reading what Im sure many teams do and knicks are now doing it: Brainstorming with trade partners and not trying to rape them. Im sure its not unique to knicks but I gather Danny Ainge is not this kind of guy. If Knicks can help themselves and Cav's its a win win. Knicks got what they wanted and presented a vision in concert perhaps with Toronto so they felt good about the trade and their future. Other teams wanted OG but knicks got it done. Could have been with a deadline too. They did not wait until Toronto could get a trade deadline bidding war going.

If Knicks are to succeed in getting Bridges or DM Nets and Cav's have to succeed as well.
We fans would like them but does our FO? Is the cost to high?
I'd be curious to know what our FO thinks our true window is?