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Knicks finalizing trade for OG: It’s bad - badass for Knicks, bad for rest of league BOO YA
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EwingsGlass
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5/6/2024  2:55 PM
this guy is gonna sign a monster deal with us an end up being a Kawhi caliber player. OG absolutely has levels to unlock and Thibs is absolutely the guy to get him there. His ability to drive, shoot and his sweet mid range jumper all scream 20ppg with all NBA defense.

I cant believe there was a time I thought Brandon Ingram was a good target.

This FO knows exactly what they are doing with the players and the coaches. Its just fun to finally watch a quality process

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fishmike wrote:this guy is gonna sign a monster deal with us an end up being a Kawhi caliber player. OG absolutely has levels to unlock and Thibs is absolutely the guy to get him there. His ability to drive, shoot and his sweet mid range jumper all scream 20ppg with all NBA defense.

I cant believe there was a time I thought Brandon Ingram was a good target.

This FO knows exactly what they are doing with the players and the coaches. Its just fun to finally watch a quality process

Paired with Randle in the Frontcourt is a beast line up. Not sure OG quite gets the 20ppg but the intangible defense, tips, steals, block, and rebounds make things so much easier for Randle, and visa versa when the ball gets to OG. Very different player then RJ but a better fit with Jules.

While im no grad of the minutes police academy I do see what we are doing. Thibs is stretching this season as long as he can and eventually the elastic will run out. When? Who can tell but "next man up" is running thin. Thibs is like a submarine captain in most movies were he takes them down to depths and risks it all. Thibs will extract a lot from this team. Im enjoying the run. My hope is we can dispense of Indy quickly and Boston gets tangled up with Clev for a long series.

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fishmike wrote:this guy is gonna sign a monster deal with us an end up being a Kawhi caliber player. OG absolutely has levels to unlock and Thibs is absolutely the guy to get him there. His ability to drive, shoot and his sweet mid range jumper all scream 20ppg with all NBA defense.

I cant believe there was a time I thought Brandon Ingram was a good target.

This FO knows exactly what they are doing with the players and the coaches. Its just fun to finally watch a quality process

Paired with Randle in the Frontcourt is a beast line up. Not sure OG quite gets the 20ppg but the intangible defense, tips, steals, block, and rebounds make things so much easier for Randle, and visa versa when the ball gets to OG. Very different player then RJ but a better fit with Jules.

While im no grad of the minutes police academy I do see what we are doing. Thibs is stretching this season as long as he can and eventually the elastic will run out. When? Who can tell but "next man up" is running thin. Thibs is like a submarine captain in most movies were he takes them down to depths and risks it all. Thibs will extract a lot from this team. Im enjoying the run. My hope is we can dispense of Indy quickly and Boston gets tangled up with Clev for a long series.

I think that is the dream. A few extra days rest.

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7/2/2024  1:14 AM
OG wanting to be here is good! Simply said

1. Can shoot to score
2. Can defend vs. most Forwards & stars
3. Can get his offense going whether he's not
2nd, or 3rd option
4. Can hit BIG SHOTS if game or 4th quarter depends
on if bucket score is needed, when offense breaks
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7/2/2024  1:37 AM
Wonder if OG is working with the Knicks trainers, medical staff at coming up with a game plan to help keep him on the court. Had a laundry list of injuries with the Raptors. Maybe it’s as simple as extra time off from working out. Maybe OG pushed himself too hard in the offseason. OG being more available next season would be huge.
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7/2/2024  8:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/2/2024  8:45 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Wonder if OG is working with the Knicks trainers, medical staff at coming up with a game plan to help keep him on the court. Had a laundry list of injuries with the Raptors. Maybe it’s as simple as extra time off from working out. Maybe OG pushed himself too hard in the offseason. OG being more available next season would be huge.

It could be on him. It could be on us. Our medical and training staff has sucked for what feels like decades. Since Mike Saunders left, I haven't felt the need to remember any trainers names. Our medical staff always seems to **** up. Didn't Dolan already fire one medical team already?

I honestly don't understand how we are in New York and they can't find any competent trainers or any decent doctors. I feel like it was a dumpster fire and while it isn't that we aren't close to being the best medical program in Basketball. They can't build a pipeline from Rutgers, UConn, etc.? You can't find a decent sports medicine professional out of Columbia? Really?

I feel like people here are going to tell me I am wrong. Well, let me ask you this? When was the last time you trusted any information coming from the Knicks relating to injury? I love to give Jeremy Lin **** for shutting it down at 85 percent in the playoffs, but he probably didn't trust what the medical staff was telling him, much like I probably would have

Anyway, hopefully the guy they grabbed from Dallas is an improvement. He WAS held in regard, then Dallas though they could do better... still, another NBA franchise's medical castoff is probably better than the garbage medical advice the team has received since JVG was like 'get me the **** outta here'

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11/21/2024  6:58 AM
Crow.

But seriously, doesn’t this team show so much more chemistry after 15 games than that Brunson/Fournier/RJ/Randle/Robinson — IQ team ever did? We here.

I don’t want to get overzealous but OG was a win. I still think he has more upside. Seriously.

KAT looks like a win early. I’d guess he regresses a bit on offense, but I think the coaches will straighten his defense out. He is a willing defender.

Bridges isn’t where I expected him to be, but I think he has some bad habits to shake off from his slumming in Kings county. His midrange is cooking but I don’t like those shots. Patience. When that 3 point stroke re-appears he will be a monster.

Hart probably has a libel case he could make against me since he is playing outside his mind. His finishing at the rim is insane.

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11/21/2024  8:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2024  8:12 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:Crow.

But seriously, doesn’t this team show so much more chemistry after 15 games than that Brunson/Fournier/RJ/Randle/Robinson — IQ team ever did? We here.

I don’t want to get overzealous but OG was a win. I still think he has more upside. Seriously.

KAT looks like a win early. I’d guess he regresses a bit on offense, but I think the coaches will straighten his defense out. He is a willing defender.

Bridges isn’t where I expected him to be, but I think he has some bad habits to shake off from his slumming in Kings county. His midrange is cooking but I don’t like those shots. Patience. When that 3 point stroke re-appears he will be a monster.

Hart probably has a libel case he could make against me since he is playing outside his mind. His finishing at the rim is insane.

OG is a high IQ player and an athletic freak. He is just missing handles, mostly that's it for his role.

Knicks finally got the talent, cohesiveness, and high IQ players all around!

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fishmike wrote:this guy is gonna sign a monster deal with us an end up being a Kawhi caliber player. OG absolutely has levels to unlock and Thibs is absolutely the guy to get him there. His ability to drive, shoot and his sweet mid range jumper all scream 20ppg with all NBA defense.

I cant believe there was a time I thought Brandon Ingram was a good target.

This FO knows exactly what they are doing with the players and the coaches. Its just fun to finally watch a quality process

ok... so Kawhi was a top 5 player and might have been the most impactful player in the league for a stretch. OG isnt quite that but he's the right guy. I got a little excited there but I def stand by my enthusiasm
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fishmike wrote:
fishmike wrote:this guy is gonna sign a monster deal with us an end up being a Kawhi caliber player. OG absolutely has levels to unlock and Thibs is absolutely the guy to get him there. His ability to drive, shoot and his sweet mid range jumper all scream 20ppg with all NBA defense.

I cant believe there was a time I thought Brandon Ingram was a good target.

This FO knows exactly what they are doing with the players and the coaches. Its just fun to finally watch a quality process

ok... so Kawhi was a top 5 player and might have been the most impactful player in the league for a stretch. OG isnt quite that but he's the right guy. I got a little excited there but I def stand by my enthusiasm

Don't be ashamed. the comps are not crazy. OG has mastered the art of effectiveness without dribbling! I saw someone online to that effect. Kawhi was able to take over a game offensively with is handle which OC cannot. They do look similar with the shooting style and deceptively strong. Both are very cool emotionally on the court as well.

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martin wrote:So nice

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11/21/2024  10:40 AM
Listen I love this guy, but I'm still living in fear of if/when he misses the entire month of February. Hoping this is the year he gets durable
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Really nice article

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5929383/2024/11/19/knicks-og-anunoby-defense-offense-nba/?source=emp_shared_article

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]Knicks’ OG Anunoby is tired of being known as just a defender
James L. Edwards III

The words “defense” and “OG Anunoby” tend to go together like shoes and socks, forks and knives or the sun and the moon. You rarely ever hear one uttered without the other. It’s part of a narrative that the New York Knicks forward has earned by consistently being one of the NBA’s best defenders. It’s also a narrative that irritates Anunoby when he hears it.

Because, in his eyes, it’s incomplete.

“Yeah, definitely,” Anunoby quickly answered when asked if he gets tired of being referred to as just a great defender. “I always prided myself on being a two-way player, not just a defender.”

Anunoby has a point. Why don’t we talk about him as one of the league’s most consistent shooters? After all, he’s knocked down 3s at a steady 37.6 percent clip over the last eight years. Why don’t we talk about him as an elite finisher? I mean, he’s usually among the most frequent non-center dunkers in the NBA each year and converts on 74 percent of his attempts around the rim.

Over the last handful of years, no season passes without him scoring 15 points per night or knocking down 3s at an above-average clip. This season, the offense has been just as loud as the defense. Anunoby already has five-plus games to his name where he has scored 20-plus points, and he’s done that playing alongside a top-five MVP candidate from a season ago in Jalen Brunson, one of the best shooting big men of all-time, Karl-Anthony Towns, and new teammate Mikal Bridges, who, too, has grown accustomed to scoring around 20 a night over the last few seasons.

The offensive power that the Knicks have isn’t just opening up opportunities for Anunoby to thrive, he’s one of the driving forces behind it.

“OG is a really good player,” Knicks head coach Tom Thibodeau said. “He can shoot the ball, he can move without the ball and he’s good in transition. If you put a small guy on him, he can take him inside. He reads the game well. The awareness of where he is because of the shooting, but when he sees the back of his man’s head, he cuts and relocates extremely well. The constant movement by him is extremely good for us.”

Teammate Josh Hart, who entered the NBA the same season as Anunoby, doesn’t remember when the scouting report was on a young Anunoby in Toronto, but he remembers that he was on it.

“We knew he was a versatile defender, but he was a guy who could knock down shots and was a high-IQ player,” Hart said of the younger version of Anunoby. “He made smart cuts and winning plays on the offensive end.

“Obviously, he’s continued to evolve. We love him in semi-transition or when we got a small on him. … He’s definitely continued to grow offensively.”

Anunoby isn’t doing much new than what he did previously. He’s just mastered what he’s really good at, or is in the process of doing so. As of Monday, Anunoby’s 1.62 points per possession on cuts ranks 12th in the entire league, per NBA.com, when factoring in players who have played a minimum of 10 games this season. Additionally, Anunoby ranks fourth in the NBA in points per possession (1.29) on post-ups. These are all things he’s done successfully in the past, but are just a bit more magnified because of where he plays and his comfortability as a player at this point in his career.

“Even if the numbers aren’t going up, I feel like I’m getting better and better,” Anunoby said.

The biggest difference in Anunoby’s game so far this season is his success rate on deeper 3s. The 27-year-old is trading corner 3s in for more attempts above the break, where he is currently averaging a career-high 3.8 attempts per game and shooting 40 percent. For reference, Anunoby only had one season (2020-21) previous to this one in his career where he both shot at least 3.0 above-the-break 3s per game and converted on at least 37 percent of those takes. Usually, Anunoby hovers around the low 30s in conversion rate in this area.

This is an area Anunoby has been working on with more regularity. Most players have just one scheduled pregame workout before games, but more often than not, Anunboy gets out onto the court to do a pre-pregame routine where he works on his shooting, including deep 3s, while the younger players are out there during their allotted time. His normal pregame routine has featured deeper 3s, too.

The next step for Anunoby, which he slowly has been correcting and really popped in his Sunday-night, 24-point performance against the Brooklyn Nets is getting more 3s up, to have a quicker trigger. His accuracy warrants such confidence. Anunoby has had a knack to turn down good-to-decent looks from 3 in order to try and get a better shot off the dribble. Thibodeau has consistently told Anunoby that he wants him to shoot more from 3. Given his success rate, it’s hard to argue with the logic.

Anunoby agrees with his coach’s assessment.

“I’ve turned down shots,” he said. “I’m trying to stop turning down shots and making it more difficult.”

Anunoby is, arguably, the game’s best two-way player who has yet to make an All-Star appearance.

Half of what makes a great two-way player is on the defensive side of the ball, where everyone and their mother knows Anunoby is among the best in the world. The other half, obviously, is what happens on the offensive end. That’s where Anunoby deserves more credit.

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11/22/2024  10:30 AM
Anunoby doesn't do stupid stuff on the floor. He rarely takes bad shots or tries to play hero with the ball. He has a knack for getting into open spaces, either close to the basket or from 3. He drives when the situation dictates. He's just this low key, under control guy who makes smart plays all over the court.
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11/22/2024  11:00 AM
VDesai wrote:Anunoby doesn't do stupid stuff on the floor. He rarely takes bad shots or tries to play hero with the ball. He has a knack for getting into open spaces, either close to the basket or from 3. He drives when the situation dictates. He's just this low key, under control guy who makes smart plays all over the court.

It's why I get fired up when he actually gets into it with opponents.

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11/22/2024  11:05 AM
VDesai wrote:Listen I love this guy, but I'm still living in fear of if/when he misses the entire month of February. Hoping this is the year he gets durable
of course. Its the risk but if any squad as the depth to deal with a month+ of missing a guy like this it's the Knicks. Our starting starting 5 are so impactful. We just need him ready to go in the spring
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