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Rookie
Posts: 26002 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
12/21/2023 2:59 PM
KnickDanger wrote:Yeah, not getting the trade for a starting center thing. IHart is ours. Also not for Kai Jones types who won't last the interview with Thibs. But depth at the 5 - and 4 - seems prudent. There was chatter not too long ago to trade for KAT and then Embiid. Those guys are definitely starting calibre players and Mitch wasn't even injured at the time. Just saying, this team should never stop trying to upgrade the roster. Kai might be a knucklehead, I don't really know. I thought it was probably a substance abuse issue. It's been kept pretty hush so I don't think anyone knows what the real deal is on him. |
LivingLegend
Posts: 23839 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
12/21/2023 3:32 PM
Nalod wrote:We need someone for a 10 day until simms is back, not a desperate situation. Sims has looked pretty bad in small view - I like the kid think he works hard but he sure seems like a 4.5 tweener who’s best attribute is his ability to move his feet but he doesn’t guard pick/roll, the post or block shots timely. I think they go for a better player via trade or a Noel type but not a 10 day — at least that’s my guess. |
LivingLegend
Posts: 23839 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
12/21/2023 3:34 PM
Rookie wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Rookie wrote:I hate to bring this guy up again but desperate times call for desperate measures. The most talented big out there is still Kai Jones. Well done — going to keep talking to myself |
Rookie
Posts: 26002 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
12/21/2023 4:28 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Rookie wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Rookie wrote:I hate to bring this guy up again but desperate times call for desperate measures. The most talented big out there is still Kai Jones. How's that going? |
Clean
Posts: 28752 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
12/21/2023 4:31 PM
I am busy for 2 days and all hell breaks loose. Mitch's injury makes things a whole lot harder this season. How do we possibly improve on last season without him?
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SergioNYK
Posts: 21908 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/8/2002 Member: #333 USA |
12/21/2023 4:42 PM
No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo.
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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21336 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
12/21/2023 4:43 PM
SergioNYK wrote:No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo. Going down that path, Dwight Howard would come even cheaper |
BigDaddyG
Posts: 37604 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
12/21/2023 4:57 PM
SergioNYK wrote:No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo. No way you give up a first for Drummond. A protected second is the most you give up for a guy you have no intention of keeping past the year. I'd rather just sign someone like Noel or Howard into the exception. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24075 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
12/21/2023 6:13 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:SergioNYK wrote:No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo. I don’t care in the least if Howard is freaky or whatever but can’t see Knicks signing him in wake of sexual assault case. Also looking at his Wikipedia page there are quotes as to him being “world’s worst teammate.” I always liked Noel but I’m guessing the FO goes left field if at all. |
BigDaddyG
Posts: 37604 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
12/21/2023 6:29 PM
KnickDanger wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SergioNYK wrote:No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo. OK, it doesn't have to be Howard. But my point is that the team shouldn't spend assets on a guy who likely isn't going to be here past this season. My stance on this would change if we lost iHart too. But, as of now, we have Sims coming back in a few games and we have Taj in the glass box to break in case of emergency. I think Noel would be good enough in a limited role and we can just sign him without giving anything up. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Rookie
Posts: 26002 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
12/21/2023 6:56 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SergioNYK wrote:No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo. Are we still paying Joakim Noah? |
KnickDanger
Posts: 24075 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
12/21/2023 7:09 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SergioNYK wrote:No way Thibs would ever play someone like Kai Jones. Whoever comes here needs to have a proven rim protector and rebounder and won't demand shots. Which is why I think Drummond is our best option. He can be acquired for a cheap contract plus a 1st imo. And I don’t disagree with you 🙂 |
SergioNYK
Posts: 21908 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/8/2002 Member: #333 USA |
12/22/2023 9:08 AM
The Post takes a look at some potential options for them: |
Nalod
Posts: 68743 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
12/22/2023 9:13 AM
Rookie wrote:Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Rookie wrote:Vucevic is trade eligible in another week. Reasonable contract, decent production. But…..Mitch blocking shots, steals and disruptions on defense lead to fast transitions. |
SergioNYK
Posts: 21908 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/8/2002 Member: #333 USA |
12/22/2023 9:16 AM
Some of you who think we are somehow better without Rob cause we can play faster are in for a rude awakening.
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Nalod
Posts: 68743 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
12/22/2023 9:20 AM
LivingLegend wrote:Nalod wrote:We need someone for a 10 day until simms is back, not a desperate situation. Sims looked last and teams abused him. But I’ll give the small sample and hoping he’d start to “feel” what was happening over 5-10 games. Starting was a good idea as Thibs can yank him and get him straighted out. Sims does not have the length. His hops are there for sure. His hands? I did not see enough to render a valid opinion. Trades could be work in progress and are the easiest for fans to comprehend. Fact is they don’t always work out and traded player can get injured too and then we had blown an asset for what? iHart was here for this reason last year as mitch played into shape. |
martin
Posts: 68911 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/22/2023 9:31 AM
Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:Nalod wrote:Rookie wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Rookie wrote:Vucevic is trade eligible in another week. Reasonable contract, decent production. For all of the things Mitch did well for the starting lineup - offensive rebounds and defense in general - Knicks gonna get a hard look at what a little less defense and rebounding looks like but with better spacing and ball movement. Can iHart stand up to other quality opponents and centers? Knicks will get to find out. And maybe that is long term beneficial if iHart gets more shots and confidence with the passing. It's a strength of his and the Knicks have underutilized it. Contract year too, so iHart got no excuses to creating his own path forward and next $$$ Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
Posts: 68911 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/22/2023 9:59 AM
He heard the Knicks needed a backup C and was auditioning
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VDesai
Posts: 37288 Alba Posts: 44 Joined: 10/28/2003 Member: #477 USA |
12/22/2023 3:32 PM
Capela would be interesting for Fournier + picks or something like that. It's a rental though and they probably will want more than that. Probably would want Grimes.
One thing about all these injuries is that Hartenstein will play a lot more and probably earn a pretty big contract this offseason and we'll have to decide whether we want to pay that. So someone we acquire might be a hedge as a backup C to Mitch next year. |