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Clean
Posts: 28820 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
12/9/2023 1:49 PM LAST EDITED: 12/9/2023 1:54 PM
martin wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: All you had to say is that you don't want to figure out the real problem. Its cool with me. Why even reply to me if you are not interested in finding out what the real problem is? I just showed you the flaw of the stat you provided but sure ignore it. Your stat without context would make you think we were the best opp 3pt shooting defenders in the NBA that year. However on further inspection we were one of the worst teams but our opponents just missed open shots that year. The point in asking you to show me the stats I asked for is because it will probably show teams are shooting much better on those open 3's since that 20-21 season. You were just fine giving me stats when you thought you proved your point. Once I pointed out the flaws in your stat now its a problem to provide stats. It's no big deal. I understand how this goes. Have a blessed day. PS: The conclusion you quoted includes 2pt shots. Which is why that does not apply to what we are talking about. 38% on open shots in general is still extremely lucky but we are talking about 3pt shots. |
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martin
Posts: 69118 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/9/2023 2:00 PM
Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: This is the literal context of opponent 3point shooting percentages for the 2020-21 season, to cap off the above. They were #1 in opponent 3pt FG% against them. They were #2 in opponent FG% against regarding wide-open looks. Perhaps your assumption that the wide-open looks is the bad thing within the bigger picture of the scheme is not correct. Just because you point out something you don't like and is not really a good thing, is not really relevant in the big picture of things. Defense and schemes are difficult and I am 100% positive you can find at least 1 really really bad thing about every team's offense and defense. That's a fair statement. To go beyond that and act like it's THE thing that is doing to make the entire offense/defense poor is a step that I am not going to take just because someone keeps spewing about it. Back it up, cause you have not. It's just something that bothers you at this point. When you go #1 and then #2 across the exact 2 stats you are trying to build context around that is in the exact opposite of your point and those stats are also across a whole season... that's a tough statistical hill to come back from. Cause then you can just throw out all stats and claim a team just got lucky. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
Posts: 69118 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/9/2023 3:32 PM
One person’s take.
For me, it’s a hard judge and juggle to differentiate between scheme, execution, and talent. All 3 things need to be on same page for things to work out at a high level, especially in the context of your individual and team development cycle. Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Clean
Posts: 28820 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
12/9/2023 3:49 PM LAST EDITED: 12/9/2023 3:49 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Weakside being too deep like I been pointing out. Thibs thinks other teams play like us. No, they actually pass to the open man without having to dribble the air out of the ball. If Thibs did this against Randle it would be great defense because he misses open players all the time. However, against the rest of the NBA this is not good defense unless they miss open 3's. |
LivingLegend
Posts: 23963 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
12/9/2023 8:29 PM
martin wrote:One person’s take. Hard to follow all of that but it seems good/smart teams can put Jalen/Julius in various action and if they keep moving the ball 1 or both with either stop rotating or in Julius case not know/care where to rotate. Throw in you put Mitch in a pick and pop defensive situation and he moves his feet like a wounded elephant |
martin
Posts: 69118 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
12/14/2023 6:18 PM
LOL it happens to every team
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Clean
Posts: 28820 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
12/14/2023 7:27 PM
martin wrote:LOL it happens to every teamTweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: That guy is entertaining. |
ToddTT
Posts: 28297 Alba Posts: 52 Joined: 8/30/2001 Member: #105 |
12/14/2023 8:11 PM
We’re doing this thread again?
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