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nycericanguy
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12/7/2023 1:52 PM
Brunson's contract is a non starter, he's getting maxed and has earned it.
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Nalod
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12/8/2023 9:15 AM
nycericanguy wrote:Brunson's contract is a non starter, he's getting maxed and has earned it. But....... |
nycericanguy
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12/10/2023 7:36 AM LAST EDITED: 12/10/2023 7:38 AM
Brunson is much more CP3 than he is Bibby. Obviously doesn't have the vision CP3 has, but both are elite in midrange, play a high IQ game and have great footwork. I see a bit of Lowry in him too.
CP3 and Lowry were elite up until 37/38. obviously you never know what can happen with injuries but there's nothing to suggest Brunson will have a short prime. another guy with elite footwork and mid range shooting was Nash who was also elite til 38 ish. |
Sambakick
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12/14/2023 2:07 PM
martin wrote:Panos wrote:The only "but" I have with him is that he should look to get other players more involved. He's not going to grow any taller, so he'll always have issues finding passing lanes over taller defenders, especially in the PnR when the opponent decides to double because they're not afraid of the roller (usually Mitch) catching a pass. He'll become a better assist guy when we get him better teammates who can shoot. But i don't see a passing leap coming. Everything in moderation. Even moderation.
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Sambakick
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12/14/2023 2:16 PM
Shout out to Nalod for his bravery starting a Brunson thread. Brunson deserves all the praise, but he doesn't get a pass for any criticism. He's a shoot first undersized PG. It's not crazy to ask... "Is this the guy who will get us over the hump". You can be single, and fall in love with the next person in your life, but that doesn't mean that person is the one you'll marry. Knick fans have been looking for their PG for so long they are rushing to the altar with Brunson without considering there may be other options.
Just keep an open mind, and think long and hard before MAXING out guys who aren't best of class in their position. Everything in moderation. Even moderation.
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nycericanguy
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12/14/2023 2:21 PM LAST EDITED: 12/14/2023 2:22 PM
This thread is why Knick fans can't have nice things.
When I first started watching the KNicks as a kid, I remember being so confused as to why so many fans had turned on Patrick Ewing, then it was Allan Houston... it doesn't take long. |
martin
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12/14/2023 2:30 PM
Sambakick wrote:martin wrote:Panos wrote:The only "but" I have with him is that he should look to get other players more involved. I don't personally buy into the height thing, lots and lots of short PGs out there could make enough passes and see guys. For me it's just plain recognition of what passing options are there. Brunson can do a lot better. Even just by starting with Mitch and lob passes, that guy has an amazing range and you just need to put the ball up anywhere near the rim. Some on Mitch too, he has to be better at recognizing the receiving end of things, he always doesn't look up or back when navigating the lane. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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LivingLegend
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12/14/2023 3:15 PM
martin wrote:Sambakick wrote:martin wrote:Panos wrote:The only "but" I have with him is that he should look to get other players more involved. Fred Katz was kind of talking about this Brunson thing the other day - said doesn’t matter what position Brunson plays he is a SG not a point and he’s always been a SG regardless of his size/shape. Some could argue that point but fact is he comes out looking to score. I think our problem is mostly we are too casual defensively lately and I do want to hear Mitch excuse because he had dropped off significantly the past 3-4 weeks and we got torched with Mitch on the court. We aren’t bringing required intensity and for me with specifically Julius as a leader who only defends/rotates when mood strikes it’s surprising we’ve been as good most of the year. Not saying Brunson is a good debut at least the cat gives his body up 2-3 times a game on charges. |
KnickDanger
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12/15/2023 12:07 AM
nycericanguy wrote:This thread is why Knick fans can't have nice things. Are other fan bases like this? Is it a New York thing? I just don’t get it. |
Nalod
Posts: 68899 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
12/15/2023 6:38 AM
KnickDanger wrote:nycericanguy wrote:This thread is why Knick fans can't have nice things. It was the money. Im asking questions for discussion in an era where bad contracts are more destructive. |
foosballnick
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12/15/2023 7:32 AM
Nalod wrote:KnickDanger wrote:nycericanguy wrote:This thread is why Knick fans can't have nice things. Ewing and Houston were in the crosshairs and bashed by Knicks fans even before their knees went. Not sure about other fanbases but NY tends to eat its own until a chip is achieved. Even then the fans will have short memories and turn on players quickly. I prefer Brunson simply be because he seems to have whatever the "it" factor is regarding a desire / internal drive to win. Mind you, he still needs a cast around him, but I think you pay guys like that rather than great looking athletes who might be missing something upstairs. |
Nalod
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12/15/2023 8:26 AM
Brunson at max money or near makes for a compelling arguement.
I don’t think he can carry the team on his hairy shoulders as a top tier guy. Few could, and when they cross 30 odds are they decline. He puts forth great effort to his superior fundamentals to get the space he creates. My point is more that he is part of a bigger equation. None of this is decided this season. He has stepped it up but sustainable? Fact is he is not carrying the team now. He is damn good and lovable. Im enjoying his play very much this year. “But”? Not a decision. Its a converstaion. Chemistry also matters. I don’t see IQ as a good back court partner until he can playmake and make life easier for JB. Thats why Grimes is so important. Good defense, and in theory be able to hit the shot when jalen draws a defender. Its why Klay was so important for Steph. I hope JB is part of the long term but as lessor of a player than more. Not carry night in and night out. I don’t think its sustainable. BUt as a deadly sniper and creater when called upon. |