martin wrote:I've always thought that guys like Josh and IQ don't really rely on height and just have a nose for the ball. Good in space and tracking down the ball.

Kinda like Rodman at 6'7"+ getting all the rebounds. Timing, position, bounce, and some length.

Yes, but why take away the advantage if him additionally grabbing RB's in addition to the PF/C and just putting him at PF where they would at best break even at a team level?

martin wrote:I've always thought that guys like Josh and IQ don't really rely on height and just have a nose for the ball. Good in space and tracking down the ball.

Kinda like Rodman at 6'7"+ getting all the rebounds. Timing, position, bounce, and some length.

Nose for the ball is a great way to describe Hart’s rebounding and there are always so many defensive switches or quick possessions that the pure amount of time Hart’s matched on big 4’s shouldn’t be an issue most of the time.

Plus on offense Hart will be on the perimeter initially—- drawing bigs away or looking at wide open 3’s and he may be able to get to the rim easier against bigger players who don’t move as well laterally or beat them down the floor more often.

If teams want to try to punish us with post ups on Hart let them - rather a guy posting Hart vs guys knocking down 3s.

Panos wrote:I think it's a mistake to rely on Josh Hart foe any significant minutes at PF. Part of his uniqueness is how he can cannily grab rebounds from the SG/SF position, supplementing the RB pulled by the PF and C. Playing him at the 4 negates the advantage he gives over other wings and plays him at a big height disadvantage.
My 2 Cents.

Hart said it himself, when he plays SG/SF, he gets a running start when tracking rebounds.

But when he plays PF, his main focus is not rebounding, but rather preventing his man from getting a rebound, and thats not easy when you are 6'4 boxing out someone 5 inchs taller than you. It could impact his outside jumper, due to fatigue.

I understand this delima because I've always played bigger than my size, and it's not easy. Takes away from your offense when you have tired legs, that jumper will start to look flat. But in transition, Hart will have the advantage and should be leading the breaks on full court plays.

With that said, the old school PFs are extinct now, maybe a few teams have a legit PF but not many. For the most part, the game is about speed and space, and every team is going in that direction.

So maybe it's not a big deal in todays game!

so yes size is good, but anticipation and desire are more of a premium.

Alpha1971 wrote:What was Portland record when Hart was defending PFs in the rotation ?

82-0