http://www.nba.com/games/20021129/SASPHO/recap.html

http://www.joenetsfan.com/NetsSeason2000_2001/Gamex2000_2001Files/joe_netsfan_gamex_game52.html

Some of you don't really know how good Stephon can be. Now, you've seen games like his 38 this year and his 40 against the clips last year (oh yeah, and when he dropped 43 on the knicks in 02-03 with the suns) but you may not know how much of an offensive force he is. In 02-03 he was almost unstoppable the second half of the year. If you look at the box scored for those suns games his point totals will read something like 33, 36, 32, 43 for certain stretches. But the best example was in 00-01 when he was with the nets. He was the only offensive option on that team and the best games that come to mind are when he dropped 50 on the lakers right after the all-star break which is up there (the look on his face after he hit his second three in the last minute of the game is priceless) or the game when he scored 41 on the sonics against what was then considered the premeire defensive point guard Gary Payton. not to mention, it only took him three quarters. This is just a thread dedicated to the Star Child, and all his scoring glory.

how many playoff games as he won? how come the suns are cruising with steve nash instead of marbury with basically the same team?

yeah...i drink marBERRY juice too, there is a difference between the old steph and the new. bare in mind that steph went to college for only one year. you lose out on alot of knowledge and what would be expierience if you stay to learn.(particularly the point.) my point is that it's taken marbury some time to learn to make his team better. there's no doubt he had in him, it was all about getting it out on the court. now he knows it's not all about (breakin' ankles ) and droppin' 40 or 50. it's about helping your team help you. now as the leader or *captain* he's learned to do that. it also helps to have vetaran help, not a bunch of rok's that are still wet behind the ears........stoudamire/martin. not to mention the fact that he played w/the nets pre-jeferson, and he's obviously a key player on that team. i personally think it was a combonation of the two. it was steph's long drawn out growing process, and the fact he had hardly any veteran experience to work with. i've even heard in the past that he's a ballhog. how? i have NO idea. he's never avg'd less than 7ast per.

Briggs, your off target on this one. Marbury did lead the Suns to the playoffs where they nearly upset the Spurs in 6 games when he totally outplayed Tony Parker. The next year they lost Amare (the real MVP of that team) to an early injury and never got back on track. As for Richardson he might be the strongest 2 guard in the NBA. This guy is a beast and a heck of a player. His shot has been off but the guy is good.

Nash is good but Dal has been just as good so far with Devin HArris. The Suns are Amare.. plain and simple.

You know, the suns, like the sonics, are one of those teams that you can't explain. When your core of Joe Johnson, Amare, and Matrix have been around each other for a few years, sometimes good things just end up happening. It's definitely not the "marbury the ***hole pg vs nashy the perfect pg," no way. The 3 for them (besides nash and qrich) are really reaching their primes and to expect less at this point would be a bit disappointing with their gamble on "now" contract with nash and run and gun offense. We'll see how the suns do in the playoffs though, I'll leave it at that...

Posted by Stevo718:

I think he is definitely a different player from a year ago. You can also tell just by watching that his first priority is to get other people in the game.

exactly, and it's what we needed. I'm sure he's entering his prime, ala jason kidd when he arrived in NJ. At that time, kiddd hadn't won anything yet and look at him now, he's regarded as a winner.

same will soon apply to stephon.

yeah...i drink marBERRY juice too

woah, way too much info there.