While he isn't considered elite he would fit really nicely with the Knicks and Thibs. If the off-season is trading for O.G. and signing Donte DiVincenzo would you be happy with the results. Shooting and Defense is added.

Assumption is your sending out RJ for OG.

WilliamHoyle wrote:Rumor is O.G. is moving on from Klutch and looking for a new agent. This is big news because Klutch has been keeping their clients away from the Knicks.

While he isn't considered elite he would fit really nicely with the Knicks and Thibs. If the off-season is trading for O.G. and signing Donte DiVincenzo would you be happy with the results. Shooting and Defense is added.

Assumption is your sending out RJ for OG.

This is good.

jskinny35 wrote:

WilliamHoyle wrote:Rumor is O.G. is moving on from Klutch and looking for a new agent. This is big news because Klutch has been keeping their clients away from the Knicks.

While he isn't considered elite he would fit really nicely with the Knicks and Thibs. If the off-season is trading for O.G. and signing Donte DiVincenzo would you be happy with the results. Shooting and Defense is added.

Assumption is your sending out RJ for OG.

I would. Love RJ but if Randle is the guy then OG would likely fit much better.

How so ?

EwingsGlass wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

WilliamHoyle wrote:Rumor is O.G. is moving on from Klutch and looking for a new agent. This is big news because Klutch has been keeping their clients away from the Knicks.

While he isn't considered elite he would fit really nicely with the Knicks and Thibs. If the off-season is trading for O.G. and signing Donte DiVincenzo would you be happy with the results. Shooting and Defense is added.

Assumption is your sending out RJ for OG.

I would. Love RJ but if Randle is the guy then OG would likely fit much better.

How so ?

Lower usage, higher 3pt percentage, killer3 from the corner. Can Barrett be better than OG? It’s possible, but OG is the better 3&D.

No I agree OG would be great but I think OG with Julius is better then OG and RJ in the lineup I'd rather trade RJ for OG with two FRP. Offseason ideally would be Brunson, Grimes,OG, Julius, Mitch bench IQ, Hart, Heart, and Watanabeor or Josh Richardson, Obi if he remains

EwingsGlass wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

WilliamHoyle wrote:Rumor is O.G. is moving on from Klutch and looking for a new agent. This is big news because Klutch has been keeping their clients away from the Knicks.

While he isn't considered elite he would fit really nicely with the Knicks and Thibs. If the off-season is trading for O.G. and signing Donte DiVincenzo would you be happy with the results. Shooting and Defense is added.

Assumption is your sending out RJ for OG.

I would. Love RJ but if Randle is the guy then OG would likely fit much better.

How so ?

Lower usage, higher 3pt percentage, killer3 from the corner. Can Barrett be better than OG? It’s possible, but OG is the better 3&D.

You do know OG wants to move on BECAUSE of that low usage right?

Yahoo Sports Canada
Raptors' O.G. Anunoby reportedly 'wants out of Toronto'
Anunoby is having the best season of his career, scoring 17.4 points per game and leading the NBA in steals.
22
Steven Loung·Writer
January 24, 2023·2 min read
Longtime radio host Bob McCown said Tuesday that O.G. Anunoby
Longtime radio host Bob McCown said Tuesday that O.G. Anunoby "wants to be traded" away from the Raptors. (Getty Images)
Despite his quiet disposition on the court, the trade noise around O.G. Anunoby keeps crescendoing.

Just a day after a Toronto Star report claimed the Toronto Raptors were offered three first-round picks for the 25-year-old forward, another rumour about a possible departure from the only NBA team Anunoby’s ever known has come forward.

Longtime Toronto radio personality Bob McCown said Tuesday on his podcast that Anunoby no longer wants to be a Raptor.

“I talked to an insider inside the NBA yesterday on the phone,” McCown said. “Just by accident he called me. He’s a guy I’ve known for several years. He tells me that Anunoby wants out of Toronto. Anunoby wants out. He wants to be traded. I don’t know if they’re trying to do something. He’s a name that’s been out there for quite some time.”

This is not the first time rumours have spread about Anunoby being unhappy in Toronto. Jake Fischer, then of Bleacher Report, reported in May that the forward was “unhappy with his role” and had teams circling around with the hopes of landing the allegedly disgruntled player.

Anunoby told TSN's Kate Beirness in November that he was "surprised" to hear the news and admitted he "can't do anything" about his name appearing in headlines.

Anunoby is in the midst of a career year, averaging 17.4 points and 5.7 rebounds per game while shooting 36.4 percent from three-point range on more than five attempts per contest. Additionally, he leads the league in steals (90) and steals per game (2.1).

The Indiana University product is under contract for at least one more season and has a player option for the 2024-25 season. He is making just over $17-million this year.

Given the way the Raptors have underperformed this season, there’s been much speculation about Toronto selling at the deadline, with Anunoby among the prime candidates because of the assumed high return he would get in any trade.

The NBA Trade Deadline is Feb. 9.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/raptors-og-anunoby-reportedly-wants-out-of-toronto-024034964.html

Knicks starters were a +8.6 in 500+ minutes according to basketball-reference.com . I'm going to need more proof before I can accept that our big 3 doesn't work because of spacing issues- such as our four worst lineups also featured Brunson Randle and RJ and they were -13 on average. https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2023/lineups/

Even bringing in OG for free causes issues for the long-term as he would replace either Grimes or RJ minutes. Now OG is better but what's his ceiling vs. those two guys?

This is tough because we have all gotten used to the offseason being the most joyous time as being a Knicks fan where we can imagine that our draft picks, trades, and signings can make us forget the disappointment of the previous season. Now we have a team that out performed expectations, a young roster that will only improve, a clean cap sheet for the foreseeable future, and a stash of picks.

In doing his job well Leon Rose has alienated a large portion of the fanbase by making our offseason objections irrelevant.

joec32033 wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

jskinny35 wrote:

WilliamHoyle wrote:Rumor is O.G. is moving on from Klutch and looking for a new agent. This is big news because Klutch has been keeping their clients away from the Knicks.

While he isn't considered elite he would fit really nicely with the Knicks and Thibs. If the off-season is trading for O.G. and signing Donte DiVincenzo would you be happy with the results. Shooting and Defense is added.

Assumption is your sending out RJ for OG.

I would. Love RJ but if Randle is the guy then OG would likely fit much better.

How so ?

Lower usage, higher 3pt percentage, killer3 from the corner. Can Barrett be better than OG? It’s possible, but OG is the better 3&D.

You do know OG wants to move on BECAUSE of that low usage right?

Yahoo Sports Canada
Raptors' O.G. Anunoby reportedly 'wants out of Toronto'
Anunoby is having the best season of his career, scoring 17.4 points per game and leading the NBA in steals.
22
Steven Loung·Writer
January 24, 2023·2 min read
Longtime radio host Bob McCown said Tuesday that O.G. Anunoby
Longtime radio host Bob McCown said Tuesday that O.G. Anunoby "wants to be traded" away from the Raptors. (Getty Images)
Despite his quiet disposition on the court, the trade noise around O.G. Anunoby keeps crescendoing.

Just a day after a Toronto Star report claimed the Toronto Raptors were offered three first-round picks for the 25-year-old forward, another rumour about a possible departure from the only NBA team Anunoby’s ever known has come forward.

Longtime Toronto radio personality Bob McCown said Tuesday on his podcast that Anunoby no longer wants to be a Raptor.

“I talked to an insider inside the NBA yesterday on the phone,” McCown said. “Just by accident he called me. He’s a guy I’ve known for several years. He tells me that Anunoby wants out of Toronto. Anunoby wants out. He wants to be traded. I don’t know if they’re trying to do something. He’s a name that’s been out there for quite some time.”

This is not the first time rumours have spread about Anunoby being unhappy in Toronto. Jake Fischer, then of Bleacher Report, reported in May that the forward was “unhappy with his role” and had teams circling around with the hopes of landing the allegedly disgruntled player.

Anunoby told TSN's Kate Beirness in November that he was "surprised" to hear the news and admitted he "can't do anything" about his name appearing in headlines.

Anunoby is in the midst of a career year, averaging 17.4 points and 5.7 rebounds per game while shooting 36.4 percent from three-point range on more than five attempts per contest. Additionally, he leads the league in steals (90) and steals per game (2.1).

The Indiana University product is under contract for at least one more season and has a player option for the 2024-25 season. He is making just over $17-million this year.

Given the way the Raptors have underperformed this season, there’s been much speculation about Toronto selling at the deadline, with Anunoby among the prime candidates because of the assumed high return he would get in any trade.

The NBA Trade Deadline is Feb. 9.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/raptors-og-anunoby-reportedly-wants-out-of-toronto-024034964.html

Compared to Scottie Barnes he is correct. He could go from 19% up to 25% usage here and still be more effective on less shots than RJ. AND, if he is open in the corner, that shot is our primary shot. I would also be designing swing pass plays to get him the ball in the corner (48% on 81 attempts last year). If teams have to guard the corner, Brunson and Randle can run rampant in the paint. Only move after that is to move Robinson out of the paint with his defender.

So, in Toronto he was behind FVV, Siakam and Barnes. Here, he would be behind Brunson and Randle. For now.

Jimbo5 wrote:Is there a way to keep RJ in a trade for OG, OG is not an elite target anyway, can it be Grimes, Obi and a couple of 1st? If thats possible maybe the final step will be trading OG and RJ plus picks for a superstar, that trade can still guve the knicks depth.

Knicks will want to keep grimes. I can see IQ and Fournier plus a couple of picks for OG though. If Toronto loses FVV especially.

PassTheBall wrote:I don’t understand the trade RJ over Randle takes. I’ll never understand them.

PassTheBall wrote:I don’t understand the trade RJ over Randle takes. I’ll never understand them.

RJ is young so his value is higher longterm as an individual player and his salary is cheaper. Randle is a 2x all star and he’s proven to carry a team and dominate in the regular season. He’s very consistent and carried the Knicks but needs that 3rd wheel to carry us into the playoffs. RJ played great in the playoffs which makes me think he’s going to be a very good clutch performer as he ages. RJs weakness is consistency and controlling his lows. He goes on these bad offensive runs at odd times and sometimes he’s stuck in s rut for too long during the season. when RJ is down, he looks bad like he should be in the g league. When he’s up he looks like a promising nba player. But patients is thin and we only have a small window during JB and Randles prime. Including thibs who’s no spring chicken.

But I think one of them should be used in a trade because in my opinion it’s going to take RJ and Randle more time to gel together in a way that impacts the entire team. These 2 feels like they’ve had more bad games together than good. One is hot the other is not.

I understand OG is looking for more volume and he will get it if he takes RJ or Randles mins. At this point I’m ready to roll the dice and make a RJ or OG move that appears to be close to a lateral move but I believe has a better impact on the team overall. RJ might be the better player or have a better individual stat career but OG is a thibs type of 3&D player. RJ is inconsistent with his 3&D. OG is a little more reliable in that area, so this makes since and why I believe OG could be an impactful player. And truthfully he’s used to low volume while since HS RJ has been a high volume player and appears to play better when he’s the lead dog not the 3rd wheel. Neither player wants to be a 3rd wheel but in my opinion OG is a better 3rd wheel than RJ.

Gotta do something and this is the something that doesn’t hurt us and should only improve us. If anything it gives us new or different energy. And I believe a perfect 2nd or 3rd wheel next to JB and Jules. He’s also a thibs type of defender.

blkexec wrote:

PassTheBall wrote:I don’t understand the trade RJ over Randle takes. I’ll never understand them.

RJ is young so his value is higher longterm as an individual player and his salary is cheaper. Randle is a 2x all star and he’s proven to carry a team and dominate in the regular season. He’s very consistent and carried the Knicks but needs that 3rd wheel to carry us into the playoffs. RJ played great in the playoffs which makes me think he’s going to be a very good clutch performer as he ages. RJs weakness is consistency and controlling his lows. He goes on these bad offensive runs at odd times and sometimes he’s stuck in s rut for too long during the season. when RJ is down, he looks bad like he should be in the g league. When he’s up he looks like a promising nba player. But patients is thin and we only have a small window during JB and Randles prime. Including thibs who’s no spring chicken.

But I think one of them should be used in a trade because in my opinion it’s going to take RJ and Randle more time to gel together in a way that impacts the entire team. These 2 feels like they’ve had more bad games together than good. One is hot the other is not.

I understand OG is looking for more volume and he will get it if he takes RJ or Randles mins. At this point I’m ready to roll the dice and make a RJ or OG move that appears to be close to a lateral move but I believe has a better impact on the team overall. RJ might be the better player or have a better individual stat career but OG is a thibs type of 3&D player. RJ is inconsistent with his 3&D. OG is a little more reliable in that area, so this makes since and why I believe OG could be an impactful player. And truthfully he’s used to low volume while since HS RJ has been a high volume player and appears to play better when he’s the lead dog not the 3rd wheel. Neither player wants to be a 3rd wheel but in my opinion OG is a better 3rd wheel than RJ.

Gotta do something and this is the something that doesn’t hurt us and should only improve us. If anything it gives us new or different energy. And I believe a perfect 2nd or 3rd wheel next to JB and Jules. He’s also a thibs type of defender.

I agree with your sentiments. I think OG fits better than RJ next to Brunson and Randle.