joec32033
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Posted by martin:
Posted by joec32033:
I like the way Penny looked at the point...It looks like when you put him in a scorers position (2 or 3) he pushes his own offense a little too much. Allan can definately play the three...I think that this injury is going to cause him to change his game...he will still be a shooter, but I also think that he will contibute more in other areas, too. When his shot isn't falling, I think that he may concentrate on his defense more...also, at SF, Allan may be better defensively by default. He is a bigger guard, and is not too fast. Most SG's are alot faster than SF's......look at most of the SF's in the league....the only problems that Allan may have are the guys everyone has a problem with.... Marion, Walker, Garnett, Kirilinko, Odom to a degree, KVH (because of height). LA is getting away with Maggette at SF and he is only 6-6 or 6-7. Houston can definatley get it done at SF, IMO....
Huh? Houston at SF? WOW, the logic is way off the mark.
You said that IF Houston's shot is off you wouldn't mind keeping him at the 3 because he would be OK defensively? WHAT?! Houston can't defend my MOM. Why would he be able to handle any offensive minded SF? And you would do this at the expense of not playing JYD or Ariza or TT?
Houston is a shooting guard, nothing more. It is also ridiculous to think that this guy will be able to play significant minutes at all this season per page. He is not that good of a passer, not a good rebounder, not really good at steals. So, why play him at anything but the 2?
No...it's not off the mark at all......I always said we should have moved Allan to the 3 when we had Spree because his game better fit the 3 position...
My logic is fairly simple and although you may not agree with it, it is not off the mark, IMo...how many players have come back from injuries and reinvented their game? Sean Elliot, Mike Jordan coming out of retirement, Vince Carter because of his Jumpers knee, Grant Hill, older players such as Larry Bird have also come back from injuries and made them change their game, hell Magic ohnson came back as a PF....I know that most of these guys are legends (Jordan, Bird, Magic), but they fit the criteria of reinventing their games to make up for injuries. We can argue all day if Houston has their mental toughness and determination to do it....to me, I can't truly measure it so it had no bearing in any of my comparisons.
Houston has already changed his game several times as a Knick, so in that instance alone, my logic is at least believable. I said that he me be a better defender (maybe I should have said he would be less of a defensive liability, which would probably be more accurate). Shooting guards are, on average, faster, quicker, smaller, they run more, and have an infinately more perimeter based game than a SF.
The main complaints that with Allans D is he is not fast enough. Allan is a very solid 6-6, 205, probably more now....I also never said he would be a lock down defender...I said, what I alway believed and that he would be better suited at SF....a look at some 2 guards in the L right now....
Most of the guards, (the upper echlon of Kobe, TMac, Pierce, Ray Allen all weigh at least 220 and are very physical). Are smaller and faster.....Wade, Richardson, Gordon, Hamilton, Crawford, Willie Green.....most teams are focusing on having either a very thick, big 2 guard (the elite 2 guards are elite because they possess size and quickness)....At the 3 Allan will be able to play against slower albeit taller competition. I think Allan would be better suited to a more physical defensive assignment than one where he is being run around all day.
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