Hart/IQ/Grimes are all excellent defenders and better scorers than McBride. That leaves Brunson (he's not sitting to get McBride minutes) and RJ who's the closest to a SF that we have.

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:I agree. Think he should be used on occasions where we are not stopping anyone. Minny game would have been a good one. I am an advocate of trying something new if nothing is working as long as it does not involve any over the top changes or demotions. Giving Deuce a few minutes with a "Defensive" lineup, the other night, would not have affected anyone's confidence or standing. Kinda like bringing in a three point specialist if you need a three.

great idea. Now onto the implementation phase: who sits so McBride can play?

Depends. Not talking giving him a rotational spot. Talking when you need a boost defensively. Ie. Minny.
Lineup of Deuce, IQ, Grimes and Jhart (best defensive players) for a stint does not hurt you or does it mean anyone is giving up their spot.

I would rather see Deuce, Jhart. IQ and Grimes instead of Obi, with Ihart/MR.
Especially when you consider defensive rotations to guard the stripe is our biggest issue at times.

My point was that if you just gave up 79 points in a half (not often) it may be a good time to try something new without having to worry about "who will have to sit". Especially since it is not a long term move. That is as long as giving up 79 in a half does not become a habit.

Drafting is an easy answer often but would the new player be consistant out of the box?
If not , they sit and learn or earn.

Knicks as Clyde said last night have been remarkably healthy this year. When Brunson was out Iq and Deuce stepped up nice.
I could a fun offseason but to do so hearts will be broken.

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:I agree. Think he should be used on occasions where we are not stopping anyone. Minny game would have been a good one. I am an advocate of trying something new if nothing is working as long as it does not involve any over the top changes or demotions. Giving Deuce a few minutes with a "Defensive" lineup, the other night, would not have affected anyone's confidence or standing. Kinda like bringing in a three point specialist if you need a three.

great idea. Now onto the implementation phase: who sits so McBride can play?

Depends. Not talking giving him a rotational spot. Talking when you need a boost defensively. Ie. Minny.
Lineup of Deuce, IQ, Grimes and Jhart (best defensive players) for a stint does not hurt you or does it mean anyone is giving up their spot.

I would rather see Deuce, Jhart. IQ and Grimes instead of Obi, with Ihart/MR.
Especially when you consider defensive rotations to guard the stripe is our biggest issue at times.

My point was that if you just gave up 79 points in a half (not often) it may be a good time to try something new without having to worry about "who will have to sit". Especially since it is not a long term move. That is as long as giving up 79 in a half does not become a habit.

I means we go from playing 3 guard sets to 4 guard sets. Someone is going to have guard bigger players. I like McBride alot. I think both he and IQ are keepers. Hard to see a path for McBride to get minutes tho

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:I agree. Think he should be used on occasions where we are not stopping anyone. Minny game would have been a good one. I am an advocate of trying something new if nothing is working as long as it does not involve any over the top changes or demotions. Giving Deuce a few minutes with a "Defensive" lineup, the other night, would not have affected anyone's confidence or standing. Kinda like bringing in a three point specialist if you need a three.

great idea. Now onto the implementation phase: who sits so McBride can play?

Depends. Not talking giving him a rotational spot. Talking when you need a boost defensively. Ie. Minny.
Lineup of Deuce, IQ, Grimes and Jhart (best defensive players) for a stint does not hurt you or does it mean anyone is giving up their spot.

I would rather see Deuce, Jhart. IQ and Grimes instead of Obi, with Ihart/MR.
Especially when you consider defensive rotations to guard the stripe is our biggest issue at times.

My point was that if you just gave up 79 points in a half (not often) it may be a good time to try something new without having to worry about "who will have to sit". Especially since it is not a long term move. That is as long as giving up 79 in a half does not become a habit.

this is the right answer... play McBride over Obi. I would do that now. Obi doesnt make us big on either side of the ball and McBride brings "it"

I means we go from playing 3 guard sets to 4 guard sets. Someone is going to have guard bigger players. I like McBride alot. I think both he and IQ are keepers. Hard to see a path for McBride to get minutes tho

I think we are on to something. Playing Deuce over Obi will make us small, but now a days, there are no post up PFs. And most solid nba teams have 4 players on the floor that can shoot threes. Plus, the little guys we have all play bigger than their size (Deuce, Hart, IQ).

But I like the idea of situational substitutions. Thats exactly how we should use Deuce. Unfortunately, we have a great coach (don't want the Thibs hives after me) who doesn't adjust on the fly. Thibs has a great pre-game plan and sticks to it. I'm sure Deuce will now be more involved the next game, because thats how Thibs adjust, from game to game.

What we need in the playoffs are IN GAME adjustments for situational rotation moves. Like if a PG is cooking JB. And the other guard is cooking Grimes. Might want to call on the Deuce Pest Control. Just change up the momentum, then bring back the starters and FINISH THEM.

The real question is how good IS McBride? Good enough to make IQ expendable? IQ is my favorite player the guy I want gone the least. He's also our most valuable/coveted asset and I am pretty sure his price would fetch something either useful or good enough assets for that 2nd move

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:I agree. Think he should be used on occasions where we are not stopping anyone. Minny game would have been a good one. I am an advocate of trying something new if nothing is working as long as it does not involve any over the top changes or demotions. Giving Deuce a few minutes with a "Defensive" lineup, the other night, would not have affected anyone's confidence or standing. Kinda like bringing in a three point specialist if you need a three.

great idea. Now onto the implementation phase: who sits so McBride can play?

Depends. Not talking giving him a rotational spot. Talking when you need a boost defensively. Ie. Minny.
Lineup of Deuce, IQ, Grimes and Jhart (best defensive players) for a stint does not hurt you or does it mean anyone is giving up their spot.

I would rather see Deuce, Jhart. IQ and Grimes instead of Obi, with Ihart/MR.
Especially when you consider defensive rotations to guard the stripe is our biggest issue at times.

My point was that if you just gave up 79 points in a half (not often) it may be a good time to try something new without having to worry about "who will have to sit". Especially since it is not a long term move. That is as long as giving up 79 in a half does not become a habit.

this is the right answer... play McBride over Obi. I would do that now. Obi doesnt make us big on either side of the ball and McBride brings "it"

I means we go from playing 3 guard sets to 4 guard sets. Someone is going to have guard bigger players. I like McBride alot. I think both he and IQ are keepers. Hard to see a path for McBride to get minutes tho

Obi barely gets any minutes. He had 12 minutes last night. Hart got 29 minutes. The minutes would have to come from Hart

fishmike wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:I agree. Think he should be used on occasions where we are not stopping anyone. Minny game would have been a good one. I am an advocate of trying something new if nothing is working as long as it does not involve any over the top changes or demotions. Giving Deuce a few minutes with a "Defensive" lineup, the other night, would not have affected anyone's confidence or standing. Kinda like bringing in a three point specialist if you need a three.

great idea. Now onto the implementation phase: who sits so McBride can play?

Depends. Not talking giving him a rotational spot. Talking when you need a boost defensively. Ie. Minny.
Lineup of Deuce, IQ, Grimes and Jhart (best defensive players) for a stint does not hurt you or does it mean anyone is giving up their spot.

I would rather see Deuce, Jhart. IQ and Grimes instead of Obi, with Ihart/MR.
Especially when you consider defensive rotations to guard the stripe is our biggest issue at times.

My point was that if you just gave up 79 points in a half (not often) it may be a good time to try something new without having to worry about "who will have to sit". Especially since it is not a long term move. That is as long as giving up 79 in a half does not become a habit.

this is the right answer... play McBride over Obi. I would do that now. Obi doesnt make us big on either side of the ball and McBride brings "it"

I means we go from playing 3 guard sets to 4 guard sets. Someone is going to have guard bigger players. I like McBride alot. I think both he and IQ are keepers. Hard to see a path for McBride to get minutes tho

Obi barely gets any minutes. He had 12 minutes last night. Hart got 29 minutes. The minutes would have to come from Hart

nope... Tell me again why Obi needs to get minutes?

I agree I would play McBride over Toppin. Ultimately I think the Knicks will find a big wing or forward to replace Toppin, and Deuce will maintain his emergency role he’s in now.