Now that I think of it. Mitch might not like getting sent to the second unit either. This tweet might be a tell.

Maybe a sign and trade if Mitch is still unhappy in the offseason?

How about this... lets pass Mitch (and IHart) the phucking ball every now and then? Im not saying make him Embiid... but run a play in the post for him. Geeze. Mitch is 100% right. He's not getting the ball until the guards throw it to him.

I love Thibs and we will see how this plays out. Mitch's beef is fair

fishmike wrote:this is fair. Mitch has been here 5 years and never gotten more than 6 FGAs a game. His career FG% is over 70
He's played with RJ for 4 years and watched RJ get 15 shots a game handed to him because he's a lottery pick and the guy is a brick layer.

How about this... lets pass Mitch (and IHart) the phucking ball every now and then? Im not saying make him Embiid... but run a play in the post for him. Geeze. Mitch is 100% right. He's not getting the ball until the guards throw it to him.

I love Thibs and we will see how this plays out. Mitch's beef is fair

This is not rec league. RJ does his job. Mitch has his.
Mitch signed a 4 year GUARANTEED 4 year $60,000,000 contract. Nobody put a gun to his head to do so.
Same for IHart. he signed a 2 year deal for about 16million.
If he wants a trade out, thats for after the season.
My opinion he should keep his displeasure in house.
Maybe put some arch on his foul shot? Just a little?

Crazy, all three of our centers are 24 years old.
Sims is under Knicks control contractually for more years after this.

I like mitch. Keep it in house young man!

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:this is fair. Mitch has been here 5 years and never gotten more than 6 FGAs a game. His career FG% is over 70
He's played with RJ for 4 years and watched RJ get 15 shots a game handed to him because he's a lottery pick and the guy is a brick layer.

How about this... lets pass Mitch (and IHart) the phucking ball every now and then? Im not saying make him Embiid... but run a play in the post for him. Geeze. Mitch is 100% right. He's not getting the ball until the guards throw it to him.

I love Thibs and we will see how this plays out. Mitch's beef is fair

This is not rec league. RJ does his job. Mitch has his.
Mitch signed a 4 year GUARANTEED 4 year $60,000,000 contract. Nobody put a gun to his head to do so.
Same for IHart. he signed a 2 year deal for about 16million.
If he wants a trade out, thats for after the season.
My opinion he should keep his displeasure in house.
Maybe put some arch on his foul shot? Just a little?

Crazy, all three of our centers are 24 years old.
Sims is under Knicks control contractually for more years after this.

I like mitch. Keep it in house young man!

Yes.

I do agree it's a fair complaint. He stated this last year too. But as you noted, he signed a new contract knowing the situation. Maybe they promised him a larger role during negotiations? But FO can't speak for Thibs. Whatever the case, you lose sympathy about the status quo after you take the money to stay in the status quo.

If no one else, RJ is consistently looking for him on his drives. Just as likely to throw the lob as he is to go for the layup (that or it just winds up in the same spot regardless).

Thibs, run a few more pick and rolls for Mitch. If this is our biggest problem, we're in good shape.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:this is fair. Mitch has been here 5 years and never gotten more than 6 FGAs a game. His career FG% is over 70
He's played with RJ for 4 years and watched RJ get 15 shots a game handed to him because he's a lottery pick and the guy is a brick layer.

How about this... lets pass Mitch (and IHart) the phucking ball every now and then? Im not saying make him Embiid... but run a play in the post for him. Geeze. Mitch is 100% right. He's not getting the ball until the guards throw it to him.

I love Thibs and we will see how this plays out. Mitch's beef is fair

This is not rec league. RJ does his job. Mitch has his.
Mitch signed a 4 year GUARANTEED 4 year $60,000,000 contract. Nobody put a gun to his head to do so.
Same for IHart. he signed a 2 year deal for about 16million.
If he wants a trade out, thats for after the season.
My opinion he should keep his displeasure in house.
Maybe put some arch on his foul shot? Just a little?

Crazy, all three of our centers are 24 years old.
Sims is under Knicks control contractually for more years after this.

I like mitch. Keep it in house young man!

I agree with not airing grievances publicly. But I also think his complaint is valid. This is growing and I would like to see him incorporated into those plans. Maybe he needs to work on his footwork or dive to the hoop with a quicker first step. His cuts off the pick and roll look a bit labored and a lot slower than I think he actually is. He and Randle should be able to connect more off the PNR. An active MitchRob that can make plays would be a game changer for this team. Not sure how to get him more involved, but I would love to see some triangle type plays for him with Randle and Grimes. See if Robinson can outlet to Grimes or turn and go up with the ball. I think he has the ability.

with all due respect, we actually suggesting how Thibs can better coach Mitch?
Mitch does not say why he is sitting more. Thibs is not going to.
Im not qualified to label his public request fair or not.

this isn't cam reddish complaining for shots then hitting the side of the backboard. the guy can contribute

and at the end of the day he'll still give 100%

Nalod wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:this is fair. Mitch has been here 5 years and never gotten more than 6 FGAs a game. His career FG% is over 70
He's played with RJ for 4 years and watched RJ get 15 shots a game handed to him because he's a lottery pick and the guy is a brick layer.

How about this... lets pass Mitch (and IHart) the phucking ball every now and then? Im not saying make him Embiid... but run a play in the post for him. Geeze. Mitch is 100% right. He's not getting the ball until the guards throw it to him.

I love Thibs and we will see how this plays out. Mitch's beef is fair

This is not rec league. RJ does his job. Mitch has his.
Mitch signed a 4 year GUARANTEED 4 year $60,000,000 contract. Nobody put a gun to his head to do so.
Same for IHart. he signed a 2 year deal for about 16million.
If he wants a trade out, thats for after the season.
My opinion he should keep his displeasure in house.
Maybe put some arch on his foul shot? Just a little?

Crazy, all three of our centers are 24 years old.
Sims is under Knicks control contractually for more years after this.

I like mitch. Keep it in house young man!

I agree with not airing grievances publicly. But I also think his complaint is valid. This is growing and I would like to see him incorporated into those plans. Maybe he needs to work on his footwork or dive to the hoop with a quicker first step. His cuts off the pick and roll look a bit labored and a lot slower than I think he actually is. He and Randle should be able to connect more off the PNR. An active MitchRob that can make plays would be a game changer for this team. Not sure how to get him more involved, but I would love to see some triangle type plays for him with Randle and Grimes. See if Robinson can outlet to Grimes or turn and go up with the ball. I think he has the ability.

with all due respect, we actually suggesting how Thibs can better coach Mitch?
Mitch does not say why he is sitting more. Thibs is not going to.
Im not qualified to label his public request fair or not.

EwingsGlass, agree there's a lot we don't see. Despite Nalod's reminder that we dont know everything we ARE still allowed to discuss it and I agree with your points... I would like to see more from Mitch.

He JUST got paid. Its not like he's trying to fluff his #s here, he just wants to do MORE and that's not a bad thing. He gets great position in the post and is constantly under the basket. There's opportunity there.

Chandler wrote:I have literally zero problems with this and that's because i'm considering the source. i think mitch is just keeping it real.

this isn't cam reddish complaining for shots then hitting the side of the backboard. the guy can contribute

and at the end of the day he'll still give 100%

Also here's some perspective. Since "the FO sucks" and "fire the coach" and "we dont develop young players" and "we'll never be normal with Dolan" and "we dont ever use the draft" and "our team loaded with bad contracts" are all kind off the table we having time to bitch and moan and fight about Mitch's tweets. There are good times boys... good times.