Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

Yep.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

Even as a #2 thought you can’t have the mental meltdowns that Randle seems to have. You can almost always see them coming and teams will know how to provoke them.

This is an argument for trading for LaVine this summer. So Randle can be a 2B or 3rd option.

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This is what everyone will do once the playoff start. Brunson makes Randle be more of a finisher. That is better for everyone involved but for some reason we still ISO Randle near the end of games. That one game winning shot does not erase his near bottom of the NBA clutch stats. Even with the shot he made in MIA that was a terrible play. He was doubled for most of the play with the open man one pass away and wide open. We all knew there was no chance at Randle passing that ball and that is why teams hard double him in the clutch. Randle has problem reading defenses all game but once it gets to clutch time his tunnel vision is like looking through a straw.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

Even as a #2 thought you can’t have the mental meltdowns that Randle seems to have. You can almost always see them coming and teams will know how to provoke them.

This is an argument for trading for LaVine this summer. So Randle can be a 2B or 3rd option.

Zach hasn’t even done anything worthwhile in Chicago to be a number 3 guy?

You’re 100% right. But he will come cheaper than d Mitchell would have (and maybe even Anunoby) and I believe Chicago has been a poorly ran organization during his time there. It’s strange to say but the Knicks have a good culture going and a player like LaVine, who is still a little younger than Randle, could maybe reach another level with the Knicks. There’s plenty of reasons not to do it but these are the gambles teams make to get to the next level. Knicks could have 3 allstar type players and surrounding with the perfect role players like IQ, Grimes, Hart and Robinson. I can see it coming together and that team making real noise. LaVine is a bigger wing who can really shoot, and should compliment Brunson and Randle well on offense, in fact, I think it can be a league best offense. And as far as defense the group I listed above should keep this a top 10 defense. This team can only hold up with a healthy Brunson, they need more. If LaVine didn’t have the wild contract he would cost the multiple unprotected picks and swaps and I really don’t want to pay that for a player that isn’t a top 10 guy. I really only want to target guys who won’t completely eliminate flexibility like the Mitchell deal in Cleveland. If Brunson is out, the ball is put in Randle's hands nonstop and it’s a flashback to everything we hate as fans. LaVine provides a shooter/scorer/ playmaker and I think Brunson, like with Randle, would have an excellent influence on LaVine. I’m allowed to change my mind daily, but after these last 3 games I’m pro LaVine.

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

It's clear that Randle needs to stop paying attention to refs. Be smarter. But let's not pretend we celebrated the same fire in other fan favorites and did not put them down for it as much as we do with Randle.

The real blame is him going 5-24. That can't happen.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

Wonder how Mase or Oak would have reacted after a whole game of this?
Probably quietly like you expected from Randle.

It's clear that Randle needs to stop paying attention to refs. Be smarter. But let's not pretend we celebrated the same fire in other fan favorites and did not put them down for it as much as we do with Randle.

The real blame is him going 5-20. That can't happen.

Holy ****, this picture made me laugh. And then I wondered if a foul was called.

I don't really blame Julius too much for his meltdown yesterday. I probably would have handled things even worse.

And I still root for the dude to keep improving.

Losses right now don't bother me, as long as we learn things, and stay out of the play-in.

My main concern is JB's long-term health.

ToddTT wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

Wonder how Mase or Oak would have reacted after a whole game of this?
Probably quietly like you expected from Randle.

It's clear that Randle needs to stop paying attention to refs. Be smarter. But let's not pretend we celebrated the same fire in other fan favorites and did not put them down for it as much as we do with Randle.

The real blame is him going 5-20. That can't happen.

Holy ****, this picture made me laugh. And then I wondered if a foul was called.

I don't really blame Julius too much for his meltdown yesterday. I probably would have handled things even worse.

And I still root for the dude to keep improving.

Losses right now don't bother me, as long as we learn things, and stay out of the play-in.

My main concern is JB's long-term health.

No foul called. Agree about JB. He is so darn efficient and seems to get a basket every time we need to stop the bleeding or when other teams are making a run.
That takes a lot of pressure if Randle and RJ.

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Oh and Randle is back to his last year antics. I don't think Randle is a championship caliber guy right now. He might become one in a few years but he is too easily rattled and that's a damn disaster waiting to happen in the playoffs again

It’s clear he gets easily rattled as the #1 but not as the #2. So I’m not worried about it.

Even as a #2 thought you can’t have the mental meltdowns that Randle seems to have. You can almost always see them coming and teams will know how to provoke them.

This is an argument for trading for LaVine this summer. So Randle can be a 2B or 3rd option.

Zach hasn’t even done anything worthwhile in Chicago to be a number 3 guy?

You’re 100% right. But he will come cheaper than d Mitchell would have (and maybe even Anunoby) and I believe Chicago has been a poorly ran organization during his time there. It’s strange to say but the Knicks have a good culture going and a player like LaVine, who is still a little younger than Randle, could maybe reach another level with the Knicks. There’s plenty of reasons not to do it but these are the gambles teams make to get to the next level. Knicks could have 3 allstar type players and surrounding with the perfect role players like IQ, Grimes, Hart and Robinson. I can see it coming together and that team making real noise. LaVine is a bigger wing who can really shoot, and should compliment Brunson and Randle well on offense, in fact, I think it can be a league best offense. And as far as defense the group I listed above should keep this a top 10 defense. This team can only hold up with a healthy Brunson, they need more. If LaVine didn’t have the wild contract he would cost the multiple unprotected picks and swaps and I really don’t want to pay that for a player that isn’t a top 10 guy. I really only want to target guys who won’t completely eliminate flexibility like the Mitchell deal in Cleveland. If Brunson is out, the ball is put in Randle's hands nonstop and it’s a flashback to everything we hate as fans. LaVine provides a shooter/scorer/ playmaker and I think Brunson, like with Randle, would have an excellent influence on LaVine. I’m allowed to change my mind daily, but after these last 3 games I’m pro LaVine.