martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Last year I thought Brunson might be valued as a max contract or close. He didn’t get it but in retrospect he was worthy.
I think the same thing is happening with Iq. He’s a burgeoning star two way guard. Won’t a team try to pay up to get him— can the Knicks even match? What a turn around by the way. At points he was a Mendoza line player. Always tough but Mendoza like.

IQ on rookie contract. They can extend him 4 years this summer OR he plays the year out and can sign a 5 year deal. He would be a RFA after this summer (if he doesn't sign) and Knicks could match any offer by another team.

I think he will sign 4 year extension this summer for under the $100M mark.

4 years/$76-$80M? Sounds about right. But it only takes one team to throw things out of wack.

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Last year I thought Brunson might be valued as a max contract or close. He didn’t get it but in retrospect he was worthy.
I think the same thing is happening with Iq. He’s a burgeoning star two way guard. Won’t a team try to pay up to get him— can the Knicks even match? What a turn around by the way. At points he was a Mendoza line player. Always tough but Mendoza like.

IQ on rookie contract. They can extend him 4 years this summer OR he plays the year out and can sign a 5 year deal. He would be a RFA after this summer (if he doesn't sign) and Knicks could match any offer by another team.

I think he will sign 4 year extension this summer for under the $100M mark.

4 years/$76-$80M? Sounds about right. But it only takes one team to throw things out of wack.

Another team can't even offer anything to him until summer 2024.

Yeah I’m hoping we don’t get to that point. I do think the number will be higher than 76-80 though.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Last year I thought Brunson might be valued as a max contract or close. He didn’t get it but in retrospect he was worthy.
I think the same thing is happening with Iq. He’s a burgeoning star two way guard. Won’t a team try to pay up to get him— can the Knicks even match? What a turn around by the way. At points he was a Mendoza line player. Always tough but Mendoza like.

IQ on rookie contract. They can extend him 4 years this summer OR he plays the year out and can sign a 5 year deal. He would be a RFA after this summer (if he doesn't sign) and Knicks could match any offer by another team.

I think he will sign 4 year extension this summer for under the $100M mark.

4 years/$76-$80M? Sounds about right. But it only takes one team to throw things out of wack.

There is no way he gets less than Barrett money. He is a more valuable player. Just look who is in the game at the end.

Rookie wrote:Begs the question what do they do with Toppin. He has not proven to be worth his QO and besides being a crowd favorite, he is easily replaceable. Obi is definitely not getting extended

I think this is why we have draft picks. The FO has proven they can find great talent later in the draft.

We might end up with 2 picks in the first - Dallas and Washington. You could trade Obi & Fournier to create room and allow Obi to prove himself with another team.

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Last year I thought Brunson might be valued as a max contract or close. He didn’t get it but in retrospect he was worthy.
I think the same thing is happening with Iq. He’s a burgeoning star two way guard. Won’t a team try to pay up to get him— can the Knicks even match? What a turn around by the way. At points he was a Mendoza line player. Always tough but Mendoza like.

IQ on rookie contract. They can extend him 4 years this summer OR he plays the year out and can sign a 5 year deal. He would be a RFA after this summer (if he doesn't sign) and Knicks could match any offer by another team.

I think he will sign 4 year extension this summer for under the $100M mark.

4 years/$76-$80M? Sounds about right. But it only takes one team to throw things out of wack.

There is no way he gets less than Barrett money. He is a more valuable player. Just look who is in the game at the end.

Objectively what is now is not what might be. This lineup works now, FOR NOW. Trying to piece the puzzle of the future is never easy for a fan. IQ is doing great but he does not have the body of work to warrant 20mil. Barrett need not be in the convo for IQ’s money. Its different player, position and Barretts 3 prior years of improvement.
I see IQ as a 15-18mm player. And yes, if another team sees it different then thats another story perhaps.

EF’s contract is a trade asset for next year. So is Grimes or IQ and with a pick your now in the conversation for a “star”. Who that is I cannot see.

Knicks are. Young, have picks, doing well, have a good base and are prime for a consolidation deal. Where is RJ in the conversation? I don’t know. I do know that this FO is professional and patient. Remember when Knicks were 3 under and Cavs came to town and Thibs was rumored on the hot seat? One month in and fans were freaking out.
I don’t know if RJ is a good fit going forward and his play is effected by Randle and Brunsons ascension.

My preference is to rehab him and if he is a knick going forward so be it. If he is part of a big trade, then let the cards fall as they may. Fact is he is playing under 30 min now and team is winning. JHart was a great add.

Be honest, few if any saw that coming. Its why fans suck at pretend GM. Except for NYKmentality who is flying high!

Rookie wrote:Begs the question what do they do with Toppin. He has not proven to be worth his QO and besides being a crowd favorite, he is easily replaceable. Obi is definitely not getting extended

Like Fournier and Reddish finesse scores don't fit with Thibs. Swapping Obi with another lunch pale dirty work guy who can fill in spot mins behind Randle would be another tweek to push for advancement. Or an absolute sniper that shoots 45% from 3 or something for spacing.

I'd say a veteran whose at the stage where he's comfy with 15mins a game. Taj Gibson from 2 seasons ago type. And a high potential project rookie that can be something in 4 yrs for pipeline.