GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Benching Randle is a recipe for disaster. If he’s not the guy then you have to trade him. I think it’s more about roster fit and roles. We need more consistent shooting from the guard and wing position. If Grimes can’t get there he shouldn’t start or finish but I do think he can get there and the experience is good for his growth. RJ however is never going to be a consistently good shooter and has been low IQ in pressure situations. I won’t even mention his defense. Mikal Bridges at the 3 would be a massive upgrade. I would go all in for that. High IQ total package and team player lockeroom guy

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Obi does fit the offense when he’s hitting 3’s. He was hot last couple months but has cooled off big time last 2 games.

Its the job description for a player like Novak, not Obi.

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Benching Randle is a recipe for disaster. If he’s not the guy then you have to trade him. I think it’s more about roster fit and roles. We need more consistent shooting from the guard and wing position. If Grimes can’t get there he shouldn’t start or finish but I do think he can get there and the experience is good for his growth. RJ however is never going to be a consistently good shooter and has been low IQ in pressure situations. I won’t even mention his defense. Mikal Bridges at the 3 would be a massive upgrade. I would go all in for that. High IQ total package and team player lockeroom guy

In the offseason we need to focus on signing high percentage 3 point shooting wings like Watanabe or Burks to come off the bench

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Obi does fit the offense when he’s hitting 3’s. He was hot last couple months but has cooled off big time last 2 games.

Its the job description for a player like Novak, not Obi.

So you’re saying you prefer a less dynamic player who can only do one thing like Novak?

No lol, Im saying that if the job description is for a one dimensional player, who spends most of the game in the corner, waiting to shoot the 3. Better to get a more reliable shooter.

Obi being dynamic really doesnt mean much to the team, if he isnt put in the best position to make use of it. Has more to offer than the role he has been given.

Knixkik wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Obi does fit the offense when he’s hitting 3’s. He was hot last couple months but has cooled off big time last 2 games.

Its the job description for a player like Novak, not Obi.

So you’re saying you prefer a less dynamic player who can only do one thing like Novak?

No lol, Im saying that if the job description is for a one dimensional player, who spends most of the game in the corner, waiting to shoot the 3. Better to get a more reliable shooter.

Obi being dynamic really doesnt mean much to the team, if he isnt put in the best position to make use of it. Has more to offer than the role he has been given.

I would rather have a player (for this team) who does the one thing really well that we need, than a player who needs more minutes to figure out if there’s anything he does well, if that makes sense. We are beyond this point as a team and don’t have the capability to mold a project like Toppin at this point. It’s not much different than it was with Cam.

SwishFM said it best, that Thibs should try using Obi in the offense , the same way he uses Randle.

Give him more room to operate. I dont consider it a big shift in the game plan.

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Benching Randle is a recipe for disaster. If he’s not the guy then you have to trade him. I think it’s more about roster fit and roles. We need more consistent shooting from the guard and wing position. If Grimes can’t get there he should’ve start or finish but I do think he can get there and the experience is good for his growth. RJ however is never going to be a consistently good Shooter and has been low IQ in pressure situations and I won’t even mention his defense. Mikal Bridges at the 3 would be a massive upgrade. I would go all in for that. High IQ total package and team player lockeroom guy

Im not talking about bringing Randle off the bench. You're right that would cause problems. Just the 4th quarter.

When Randle lost his temper in a game, Thibs said in a very fatherly way that not just the team, but the organization needs to support Randle. I thought it was over the top considering what this was about. Thibs has given Randle plenty of slack. Thibs clearly cares about Randle as a person. Is protective of him. Feels like its time for a little "tough love". Show Randle there is accountability for the unforced errors.

While I agree I wish Thibs would sit Randle for a minute of two to cool down the tough love benching approach with Randle wouldn’t work with Randle. I don’t know what happened with KAT but getting fired will leave some scars

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Obi just doesnt fit in this offense, operating mostly from the corner. The FO needs to put Thibs in a position whete he feels comfortable benching Randle in the 4th, if necessary. Just like he did with RJ. We need a strong 4th quarter finisher at the 4. Starting or off the bench.

The good news is that the FO has the resources to find that player.

Benching Randle is a recipe for disaster. If he’s not the guy then you have to trade him. I think it’s more about roster fit and roles. We need more consistent shooting from the guard and wing position. If Grimes can’t get there he should’ve start or finish but I do think he can get there and the experience is good for his growth. RJ however is never going to be a consistently good Shooter and has been low IQ in pressure situations and I won’t even mention his defense. Mikal Bridges at the 3 would be a massive upgrade. I would go all in for that. High IQ total package and team player lockeroom guy

Im not talking about bringing Randle off the bench. You're right that would cause problems. Just the 4th quarter.

When Randle lost his temper in a game, Thibs said in a very fatherly way that not just the team, but the organization needs to support Randle. I thought it was over the top considering what this was about. Thibs has given Randle plenty of slack. Thibs clearly cares about Randle as a person. Is protective of him. Feels like its time for a little "tough love". Show Randle there is accountability for the unforced errors.

While I agree I wish Thibs would sit Randle for a minute of two to cool down the tough love benching approach with Randle wouldn’t work with Randle. I don’t know what happened with KAT but getting fired will leave some scars

There's "tough love" and there's tough. As far as tough love. From what Ive read there was too much of the former in Minny, maybe a little too much of the latter in NY. Randle is our best all around scorer, and he's very inconsistent in the 4th. Something has to give.

ccch wrote:Would love to see Hart replace Barrett. What a waste of a # 3 pick. His defense and shooting is below average. I'm getting sick of seeing him go 4 for 14, 2 for 12...etc. I think he's definitely the week link in our starting 5.

You say that, but then Barrett is the reason we beat a team like Miami without Brunson. Just have to deal with the inconsistencies until he develops. He’s 22.