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Chandler
Posts: 26114 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
2/6/2023 1:49 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:blkexec wrote:NYKMentality wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I like Hofstra's summary. the only thing i would add is RJ is not untouchable. If Raptors wanted some Canadian talent and gave a sweet offer I'd listen. I do feel when his shot is off he gets selfish in more ways than one. WHen it's cooking it's a different story. Pulling for him but want more consistency (5)(5)
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23994 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
2/6/2023 1:53 PM
blkexec wrote:RJ experiment is going on 4 yrs. Are you looking to develop or win a chip? Everything has an expiration date and 4 yrs is a long time to evaluate a player. This is where I strongly disagree. Because R.J. Barrett's "expiration date" is nowhere near "expiring". And you know why? Because he's still only 22 years of age and he's still the youngest talent on our entire roster. Not only that, but fans such as yourself might not realize it (I do) but R.J. Barrett is only 1 of 7 NBA Players (All-Time) to accumulate over 4,439 Points, 1,361 Rebounds, 704 Assists and 411 made 3's before the age of 23. The 6 players? Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum, and Luka Doncic. I'm sorry, but you don't force the youngest player on your team with the most amount of potential and who oozes (future) All-Star abilities to the bench in order to "win a championship"; that makes zero sense. Last but not least. Why would New York give up on our trio of Jalen Brunson, R.J. Barrett and Julius Randle when A.) This trio was only formed this year, B.) This trio can win big time moving forward, C.) This Trio is competing without their Starting Center in Mitchell Robinson and D.) This Trio is just getting it's feet (it's just getting started) and E.) This trio is far from a finished product in terms of max chemistry/cohesion (moving forward into the future) and/or F.) This trio of Jalen Brunson/R.J. Barrett/Julius Randle is just getting started (and far from a "failed" experiment. Last year I created a thread title called "LEAVE JULIUS RANDLE ALONE" and that's because fans were booing him and forgetting all about his All-Star abilities while fans such as myself were screaming to get him an elite PG in order to maximize his potential and now look. I was right. Because he's once again an All-Star alongside of an elite PG in Jalen Brunson And now I feel like creating a thread called "LEAVE R.J. BARRETT ALONE" but I rather not. Because I feel as if I'm maturing as a poster so this time with R.J. Barrett? I won't create a thread about shutting the freak up about "moving him to the bench". I'll just sit back and watch him develop into an All-Star quality trio (alongside of Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle) because I knew it was there with Julius Randle (I was correct in my assessment) and I know it's there with R.J. Barrett moving forward (because I know how special he already is for being only 22 years old ala the youngest player on our entire roster). [IMG_block] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fkgf2qvX0AQUjhz.jpg:large [/IMG_block] |
blkexec
Posts: 27867 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
2/6/2023 3:16 PM LAST EDITED: 2/6/2023 3:18 PM
NYKMentality wrote:blkexec wrote:RJ experiment is going on 4 yrs. Are you looking to develop or win a chip? Everything has an expiration date and 4 yrs is a long time to evaluate a player. I hope your right. Been an RJ fan since duke. But you have to use him the right way. I hope all 3 shine and bring us a chip. If anybody knows RJ it’s thibs, who’s been in his corner from the jump. This is why fans are armchair managers. Very easy when sitting in the living room yelling at tv. Glad to see you have faith in RJ and the big 3. I’ll sit back and take a more optimistic approach with everything. Hope for the best. But I’m not holding my breath. I’ve done that too many years now. I’ll just let the results speak for itself. If RJ can stop working on everything and first make sure what he’s good at he can perfect like playing down hill. I think RJs game is like a 4th quarter RB who runs out the clock. RJ puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Some complain about missed layups but not me. I played ball and I know how difficult it is to go 100 miles per hour towards the rim, then hit the brakes with some touch. It’s not easy. But he makes the hard part look east which is getting to the rim. So we’ll see man. Please prove me wrong RJ, that you can coexist with JB and Randle together. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27214 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/6/2023 7:36 PM LAST EDITED: 2/6/2023 7:54 PM
blkexec wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:blkexec wrote:NYKMentality wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I would agree that we have three guys that probably are redundant. 4 years is not enough imo. Maybe back in 2000-2005 when teams were drafting kids after 4 years of college. Not for a kid who is 22. Also, despite the three players not fitting quite well, saying they never will is a different story. Do not think Thibs gives up on players. Just think he plays the guys that he feels give him the best chance to win. He gave up on Cam but so did the team that drafted him. We can say he gave up on EF, but so did several teams. Maybe it's just that the players he gave up are just not that good in the aspects coaches want. I was quoting Thibs in regards to mistakes. Feel young players should be expected to make more. Totally agree with you about the FO needing to be on the same page as their coach. Or you suggesting the Cam trade was made against Thibs wishes? Obi's defense is not good. Do not know why you feel he puts in more energy on defense than RJ or Randle. He often seems out of place and running around like a chicken without a head. That is not the energy we need. Thibs, a defensive coach, agrees. Cam will not be a talking point in less than 3 days. I know people wanted him to be good but I saw a very raw product. One which needed a lot of patience and growth. Wish him luck in developing. But trust the opinion of now two high level coaches. Totally agree that NY'ers are impatient. Keep in mind, my view is always be patient, acknowledge what you have. However, it is also, what is the alternative? 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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martin
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2/7/2023 1:20 PM
Nice
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23994 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
2/7/2023 1:32 PM
martin wrote:NiceTweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Defense was awesome 2nd half especially against Joel Embiid too. Outside of his 18 phantom made FTs both of Sims and Hart held him up only 13 points from the field throughout the entire game. In regards to Harden? I mentioned during the 1st Q. He looks out of shape. Like. Really out of shape; must be too many Philadelphia Cheese Steaks. [IMG_block] https://img.covers.com/cms/covers/d5d6e812-c2d9-4941-a30a-eca389e025c7..jpg [/IMG_block] |
BigDaddyG
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2/7/2023 1:37 PM
NYKMentality wrote:martin wrote:NiceTweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37762 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/7/2023 1:41 PM
martin wrote:Critical playTweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I remember listening to an podcast (can't remember which one, but I think Derrick Coleman was being interviewed) and it was mentioned that players had an unwritten code at the fouline. Basically, players signal each other if they're resting or going hard for the offensive rebound. I guess iHart was like 'you don't know me like that!' Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37762 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/7/2023 3:02 PM
I guess this serve as a reminder to edit before you post 🤣 Assuming this was a mistake of course
.. [IMG_block] https://preview.redd.it/mhidrpmtklga1.png?width=1316&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b9325aab459ef32684c4e7d6ed0861e14690971c [/IMG_block] Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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