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BRIGGS
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2/1/2023  12:27 PM
He was really bad most of season. He seems to be out of his long funk. I really hope he continues this type of play
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martin
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2/1/2023  12:29 PM
Dammit man, you just killed Hart, he won't survive this type of triple jinx
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BRIGGS
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2/1/2023  12:45 PM
martin wrote:Dammit man, you just killed Hart, he won't survive this type of triple jinx

You’re right of course but still someone had to say good job.

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2/1/2023  2:53 PM
iHart has been misused. Just like IQ, he is now finding a groove despite the lack of a solid offensive game plan. IQ started off rough, too. Grab an offensive assistant coach and work on this. We finally have a tough PG, but still play mostly ISO ball.
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2/1/2023  4:54 PM
NYStateOfMind wrote:iHart has been misused. Just like IQ, he is now finding a groove despite the lack of a solid offensive game plan. IQ started off rough, too. Grab an offensive assistant coach and work on this. We finally have a tough PG, but still play mostly ISO ball.

That very PG is playing some street ball though!
Hart is new to Thibs and visa versa. IQ had to reinvent his game to stay. He has done great.
iHart Misused? He had some heel issues? Now playing really well. We don't know everything do we?

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2/1/2023  6:55 PM
Nalod wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:iHart has been misused. Just like IQ, he is now finding a groove despite the lack of a solid offensive game plan. IQ started off rough, too. Grab an offensive assistant coach and work on this. We finally have a tough PG, but still play mostly ISO ball.

That very PG is playing some street ball though!
Hart is new to Thibs and visa versa. IQ had to reinvent his game to stay. He has done great.
iHart Misused? He had some heel issues? Now playing really well. We don't know everything do we?

We know Hart has played with Joker and had learned a bunch from him. That was the scouting report. That and supposedly being deadly from 3 and needing more shots from there

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martin
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2/1/2023  8:08 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:iHart has been misused. Just like IQ, he is now finding a groove despite the lack of a solid offensive game plan. IQ started off rough, too. Grab an offensive assistant coach and work on this. We finally have a tough PG, but still play mostly ISO ball.

That very PG is playing some street ball though!
Hart is new to Thibs and visa versa. IQ had to reinvent his game to stay. He has done great.
iHart Misused? He had some heel issues? Now playing really well. We don't know everything do we?

We know Hart has played with Joker and had learned a bunch from him. That was the scouting report. That and supposedly being deadly from 3 and needing more shots from there

Last year Hart played for Clippers and did really well in his role; I didn't see any of those games but every Clip fan raves about what they saw from him. At the end of the year, Lue finally gave him the green light to shoot 3point shots.

I think it's fair to say that the Clips were hurt last year and underperformed. By the end of the year the Clips were a lock for the 8th seed and eventually lost in play-in game, so they had some leeway to open up Hart's shooting and he did well. For the season, he hit a grand total of 14-30 3pointers while also tacking on a very Obi'esque end of the year performance that is probably a little inflated numbers-wise. 9 of those 14 3point made shots came in the last 2 weeks of play. Half of his 3 point attempts for the season came in the last 2 weeks of play when the season was already decided.

Hart really shot well from deep in his GLeague games too. Had some gonzo McBride-type shooting displays.

So that's the context. That's the actual scouting report. He has potential, not that he was deadly. He has potential from 3point land as a center and probably more so as a passer.

Barely scratched the surface for either this year.

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MS
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2/2/2023  3:01 AM
Honestly, a lot falls on the coach.

Allowing three guys to pound the ball into submission at the detriment of everyone else isn’t an offense.

Hartenstein, has impressive assist number last season and is a facilitator. You have guys that are great cutters in Grimes and Obi that would benefit from his playmaking.

Maybe I’m missing something but rarely do you see plays drawn for anyone.
It’s like a weave out there with constant hand offs.

He’s a nice role player, just need to play to his strengths.

I have never seen more guards miss Mitch, Obi and
Hartenstein for easy dunks.

We are a selfish team that doesn’t make the easy pass. That’s really the problem.

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2/2/2023  1:02 PM
Briggs' kiss of death, strikes again
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Panos
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2/2/2023  1:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/2/2023  1:24 PM
MS wrote:Honestly, a lot falls on the coach.

Allowing three guys to pound the ball into submission at the detriment of everyone else isn;t an offense.

Hartenstein, has impressive assist number last season and is a facilitator. You have guys that are great cutters in Grimes and Obi that would benefit from his playmaking.

Maybe I;m missing something but rarely do you see plays drawn for anyone.
It;s like a weave out there with constant hand offs.

He;s a nice role player, just need to play to his strengths.

I have never seen more guards miss Mitch, Obi and
Hartenstein for easy dunks.

We are a selfish team that doesn;t make the easy pass. That;s really the problem.

I'd agree except for the Hart part of the equation. He's shown to go up soft around the rim. MFer needs to throw it down. Then maybe the guards will find him.

Hartenstein has shown some guts

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