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martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:Refs swallowed the whistle on a lot of calls that could have gone knicks way. Glad to see they swallowed at the end.

Garland getting touch fouls called to his benefit was pretty maddening considering the way things were being otherwise called.

RJ didn't really touch Garland on the play right? I didn't see it fully.

Feels like the refs are trying to help the Knicks tank. But not tonight!

Yes he did. It was a continuation foul with the body. I still prefer the 90s where that’s not a foul. In 2023 it’s a foul.

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:Refs swallowed the whistle on a lot of calls that could have gone knicks way. Glad to see they swallowed at the end.

Garland getting touch fouls called to his benefit was pretty maddening considering the way things were being otherwise called.

RJ didn't really touch Garland on the play right? I didn't see it fully.

Feels like the refs are trying to help the Knicks tank. But not tonight!

Yes he did. It was a continuation foul with the body. I still prefer the 90s where that’s not a foul. In 2023 it’s a foul.

The call was very suspect. I didn’t see any continuation w body. I thought they saw a hand on the hip. Same thing they called randle for. That said there were tons of plays w 10-100x more contact and no call

This is why I hate the nbas response to officiating complaints. First they only focus on the last 2 minutes. Why? All the buckets matter. Second and more important they never address the consistency issue. Every player and every coach stresses that’s the key issue. Be consistent so play can be adjusted. The calls are inconsistent among players (eg star treatment or some guys like ihart being called for foul based on reputation) and inconsistent over the course of the game

BigRedDog wrote:

Chandler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:Refs swallowed the whistle on a lot of calls that could have gone knicks way. Glad to see they swallowed at the end.

Garland getting touch fouls called to his benefit was pretty maddening considering the way things were being otherwise called.

RJ didn't really touch Garland on the play right? I didn't see it fully.

Feels like the refs are trying to help the Knicks tank. But not tonight!

Yes he did. It was a continuation foul with the body. I still prefer the 90s where that’s not a foul. In 2023 it’s a foul.

The call was very suspect. I didn’t see any continuation w body. I thought they saw a hand on the hip. Same thing they called randle for. That said there were tons of plays w 10-100x more contact and no call

This is why I hate the nbas response to officiating complaints. First they only focus on the last 2 minutes. Why? All the buckets matter. Second and more important they never address the consistency issue. Every player and every coach stresses that’s the key issue. Be consistent so play can be adjusted. The calls are inconsistent among players (eg star treatment or some guys like ihart being called for foul based on reputation) and inconsistent over the course of the game

Nah, it was def. a foul. Bad defense by RJ. He was following Garland instead of getting in front of him. Hit him with his body.

I was watching the league pass feed and replay and it seemed marginal (which breen and Clyde said as well IIRC) but regardless seemed inconsistent w tempo at the time.

The defense was a lot better holding the Cavs to 103 points on 46% shooting! See what happens when you try to defend and not allow wide open threes and 130 points?

Another great game by Randle with 36/13 including a career high 8 clutch threes! Like him or not, he deserves to be an All-Star again! Quiet game by Brunson but had some timely shots in the third to bring us back down 8. Good bounce back game from Grimes too. Made some shots and held Spida to 24 points, which is great. Hartenstein had his best game of the season imo. Great defensive stops, a nice give and go pass to Deuce for a layup and a clutch put back dunk. Good to see him play well! Good to have IQ back! Obi's three and dunk to the start the fourth were huge! It just sucks Thibs cannot find more minutes for him. Enjoy him cause I really think he's getting traded soon.

Awful game by RJ! Almost cost us the game in the final minute! I like RJ and want him to succeed but I'm starting to lose patience! I can take bad shooting games but his lapses on defense at critical times is unacceptable! His effort on Garland's phantom And1 was embarrassing and he air balls a three! WAKE UP!!!

martin wrote:This is wild: CLE adds a star to their roster in Donovan and that team is only 3 games ahead of the Knicks.

And they have a much better team around Spida then what we could ever build after trading away most of our assets.

blkexec wrote:

Chandler wrote:

BigRedDog wrote:

Chandler wrote:

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:Refs swallowed the whistle on a lot of calls that could have gone knicks way. Glad to see they swallowed at the end.

Garland getting touch fouls called to his benefit was pretty maddening considering the way things were being otherwise called.

RJ didn't really touch Garland on the play right? I didn't see it fully.

Feels like the refs are trying to help the Knicks tank. But not tonight!

Yes he did. It was a continuation foul with the body. I still prefer the 90s where that’s not a foul. In 2023 it’s a foul.

The call was very suspect. I didn’t see any continuation w body. I thought they saw a hand on the hip. Same thing they called randle for. That said there were tons of plays w 10-100x more contact and no call

This is why I hate the nbas response to officiating complaints. First they only focus on the last 2 minutes. Why? All the buckets matter. Second and more important they never address the consistency issue. Every player and every coach stresses that’s the key issue. Be consistent so play can be adjusted. The calls are inconsistent among players (eg star treatment or some guys like ihart being called for foul based on reputation) and inconsistent over the course of the game

Nah, it was def. a foul. Bad defense by RJ. He was following Garland instead of getting in front of him. Hit him with his body.

I was watching the league pass feed and replay and it seemed marginal (which breen and Clyde said as well IIRC) but regardless seemed inconsistent w tempo at the time.

Very inconsistent. We all agree with that. Not sure how to solve it. But the refs and their calls are part of the game. Players have to adjust real time.

i do not know how the league internally assesses performance. I know externally it seems to be let's see if we can rationalize the call (regardless of consistency)

but it should involve consistency, and it should be part of their pay

you don't hear about it anymore (not sure if it happens in a non-public way) but teams used to have their video guys compile reels and send to the league office.

look at last night's scores around the leagues. A lot of games decided by two buckets or less. Refs can easily swing a game with a quick whistle here or there. Give a guy a third foul early in the 2d quarter and you essentially cut that guy's PT by 10 minutes. Bail out a bad shot with a foul call.

given how much the game generates league should be insisting on better performance.

martin wrote:Cavs fans will no doubt bitch and moan and then blame Thibs who forced the Cavs coach to play Donovan too many minutes - 38 in total - in his first game back after injury

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Can Donovan squeeze a few more excuses in there?

Maybe he felt need to take a dump as he started to lift off or he blew both knees out?

SergioNYK wrote:

martin wrote:This is wild: CLE adds a star to their roster in Donovan and that team is only 3 games ahead of the Knicks.

And they have a much better team around Spida then what we could ever build after trading away most of our assets.

You have a lot of Knicks PSD to work out