Personally I think you start be moving people that do similiar things, and if it takes a year or so I think Isiah has to try instead of adding more and more salary.

Evaluate our young talent

Michael Sweetney: Can he be an All-Star?

The answer is maybe, at his very best he could average 18pts and 12rbs. And that’s his best, he lack the athleticism to keep of with the quicker highly skilled power forwards. Do we want to lose him no. For Eddy Curry I think you need to entertain the idea.

Curry: Is a tradable asset no matter what happens. I posted in the Curry thread, that Ewing should be hired if we make this deal, because if Isiah decides to do it he has to go all the way and constantly have someone on this kid and keep him out of the soul food restaurants, because he has a tendency to eat everything I sight. (15pts 8rbs 1 blk)

Trevor Ariza: You don’t move for anyone right now, he is athletic humble, enjoys playing defense and in three years when he puts on 15 pounds we have ourselves Shawn Marion (16pts 8rbs 2stls)

Jamaal Crawford: He is a great talent but he needs the ball in his hands to realize it. He is more of an Allen Iverson type that is going to need 20 shots a game to be truly effective. He doesn’t play defense which isn’t something you can over come with this team. His numbers as of right now should sixth man numbers not starter. If they can package him for a defensive minded player who is athletic I say do it. (Pietrus is 22 and loves playing defense they need to look into it.

Marbury: He is the face for the Franchise and Isiah will never move him. He is passing the ball as good as anyone just doesn’t have any finishers, so I think he finally gets it but needs to play defense otherwise he will never be the player he can be.

Trade Bait: Kurt Thomas, Tim Thomas, Penny Hardaway (Naz keep as a back-up center)

Isiah will do what is necessary to add talent we all know that, and by next year he will turn TT and or Penny into an All-Star with a long term deal

Possible Free Agents: Steven Hunter, Dalembert, Stro Swift. And hope to god another Ariza falls into our lap.

The NBA is all about luck. Duncan, Wallace (no one talks about Dumars if that deal doesn't fall into his lap), Suns we just need a little

I think your suggesting what Isiah is doing. I'm not in love with all him moves and I think every one including the Marbury trade has some question marks attached to it.

When I look at the roster and the contracts Layden left behind there wasnt much to work with. Sweetney had no value, so your pieces to work with were Dice, Ward and Lampe. If it was a situation where most of the contracts expired after a year or two I would have been in favor of rebuilding through the draft, especially with a guy like Isiah who's got a good history there. The problem was with contacts of guys like KVH, Spoon, Houston, Shandon and Eisley all running for at least 3 years that just wasnt realistic. Your picks would be mediocre and there was no cap space in the immediate future.

So plan B is go half and half. Get a guy like Marbury who can help you win now, put fans in the seats and keep management happy, but still work on getting younger and turning this roster over. My big knock is using a pick AND Lampe in the Marbury trade but water under the bridge... I'm over it.

The next phase it to aquire as many assets as you can and flexibility so you can make GOOD trades. The other part is we need to execute in the draft. So far I give Isiah a C+ and an A. The C+ is because I like Crawford but this roster ISNT flexible right now and if a good trade opportunity comes up we wont be players until next offseason when we have a lot of expiring contracts. The A is because we didnt even have a #1 pick, but we came away with Ariza who's a top 10 player from last year's draft, and can clearly have a big role with this team for years.

To me Isiah's real impact make or break period will be next year. He's got a #1 pick and $35mm in expiring contracts. He's got a great opportunity to balance the team, add young players and trim payroll. Time will tell.

To me Isiah's real impact make or break period will be next year. He's got a #1 pick and $35mm in expiring contracts. He's got a great opportunity to balance the team, add young players and trim payroll. Time will tell.
Fish, you touched on a great point. That's why I don't see why we should go for Curry and get rid of Sweetney. Before the season, most people were saying that we were going to win 45 games. That is still possible. Our poor play of lately has been because of TT, not because of us not having a center. If we could trade TT, instead of Sweetney, for a decent SF, we would be back on pace to 45 wins. We need to wait until the off-season to get a big man. By no means I think we should trade Sweetney. Since IT has been in NY, Knicks fans are no longer patient. Wait until the off-season to make a move for a big man.

I have no problem tanking the season, if we do this deal, and win 30 games or anything under its a better season than going 5 games in the first round of the playoffs and losing. You can add through the draft, and replace the coach, and start new which is a better plan than play real hard, and fall short and be in the same place as last year.

how do you tank a season? Tell Marbury, Crawford, KT and guys not to play hard? Tanking never works in any sport.

Cavs were just bad and the Spurs didnt tank, they were a 60 win team that lost David Robinson to a season ending injury. How's tanking working for the Bulls and Warriors? Please...

Again talking about motivation is a waste of breathe. These players have nothing to be motivated about either you have it or you don't. Losing either hearts you or you laugh like a bitch (tt)

If playing ball in the best city in the world, for one of the storied franchises isn't enough then get the **** out.

Aside from the fact these players can make themselves more endoursment money here, by winning and being committed should be added motivation its not. John Starks couldn't speak English and he was involved in many business and marketing deals. So its proof if you leave it on the floor and play with heart your going to get paid.

Its really a shame, that God had no idea what a mistake he was making giving half these players the oppurtunity to lead an easy life, when millions of people would kill to leave their heart on the floor for a tenth of what these guys make. For some reason I love the NBA. But one thing is abundently clear: THE NBA SUCKS!

So, tanking the season is acceptable. That would show no heart and they definitely wouldn't be earning their salary.

oh' when i said i would keep thomas, i meant kurt thomas. sorry.

that was last season... we have our #1 this year

I think considering what IT came into, he is doing the right thing, try to stay competitive now while stockpiling good young talent....I don't understand the impatience of some people, if we were to blow this team up, there would still be a season or two with a high payroll assuming we took back some expiring deals and seasons of losing, I mean if we can't deal with this transition now, how were we going to deal with a full blown rebuild?