Dillion Mitchell - signed with CAA for endorsements. Big wing who is a freak athlete. Shooting may keep him out of top 10

Kel’el Ware- CAA endorsement signee- shot blocker and rim runner

Jalen Hood-Schifino - CAA endorsement signee- big playmaking guard who needs to develop shot

Chris Livingston- Kentucky guy- big wing with 3&D skill set

Cason Wallace- Kentucky guy- defensive combo guard who can do a little of everything

Obviously there may be more CAA guys to emerge but with the way this front office operates, this is a starting point of draft prospects to focus on.

Knixkik wrote:Unless the Knicks get hit hard with injuries/ bad luck etc and compete for the top of the draft, it’s not even worth discussing the top guys. But here’s what’s worth discussing. This past summer the Knicks 2 free agent signings were Brunson and Hartenstein, both CAA clients. 2 summer trade pursuits were for Donavan Mitchell and jaden Ivey, both CAA clients. For what it’s worth, that will always be the front offices priority, to take advantage of those relationships. And same with Kentucky. So with just a focus on 1st round prospects, here’s a list so far.

Dillion Mitchell - signed with CAA for endorsements. Big wing who is a freak athlete. Shooting may keep him out of top 10

Kel’el Ware- CAA endorsement signee- shot blocker and rim runner

Jalen Hood-Schifino - CAA endorsement signee- big playmaking guard who needs to develop shot

Chris Livingston- Kentucky guy- big wing with 3&D skill set

Cason Wallace- Kentucky guy- defensive combo guard who can do a little of everything

Obviously there may be more CAA guys to emerge but with the way this front office operates, this is a starting point of draft prospects to focus on.

Can you post some videos I agree about looking at later picks. The Knicks aren’t lottery bound this year unless something bad happens unexpectedly.

Knixkik wrote:Unless the Knicks get hit hard with injuries/ bad luck etc and compete for the top of the draft, it’s not even worth discussing the top guys. But here’s what’s worth discussing. This past summer the Knicks 2 free agent signings were Brunson and Hartenstein, both CAA clients. 2 summer trade pursuits were for Donavan Mitchell and jaden Ivey, both CAA clients. For what it’s worth, that will always be the front offices priority, to take advantage of those relationships. And same with Kentucky. So with just a focus on 1st round prospects, here’s a list so far.

Dillion Mitchell - signed with CAA for endorsements. Big wing who is a freak athlete. Shooting may keep him out of top 10

Kel’el Ware- CAA endorsement signee- shot blocker and rim runner

Jalen Hood-Schifino - CAA endorsement signee- big playmaking guard who needs to develop shot

Chris Livingston- Kentucky guy- big wing with 3&D skill set

Cason Wallace- Kentucky guy- defensive combo guard who can do a little of everything

Obviously there may be more CAA guys to emerge but with the way this front office operates, this is a starting point of draft prospects to focus on.

I don't buy your CSS/Kentucky thread line, not sure why you keep pecking away at it. More coincidence with a side of better relationship that causation IMO

If Donovan Mitchell was not CAA or if Jaden Ivey was not CAA, Knicks would have still pursued.

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Unless the Knicks get hit hard with injuries/ bad luck etc and compete for the top of the draft, it’s not even worth discussing the top guys. But here’s what’s worth discussing. This past summer the Knicks 2 free agent signings were Brunson and Hartenstein, both CAA clients. 2 summer trade pursuits were for Donavan Mitchell and jaden Ivey, both CAA clients. For what it’s worth, that will always be the front offices priority, to take advantage of those relationships. And same with Kentucky. So with just a focus on 1st round prospects, here’s a list so far.

Dillion Mitchell - signed with CAA for endorsements. Big wing who is a freak athlete. Shooting may keep him out of top 10

Kel’el Ware- CAA endorsement signee- shot blocker and rim runner

Jalen Hood-Schifino - CAA endorsement signee- big playmaking guard who needs to develop shot

Chris Livingston- Kentucky guy- big wing with 3&D skill set

Cason Wallace- Kentucky guy- defensive combo guard who can do a little of everything

Obviously there may be more CAA guys to emerge but with the way this front office operates, this is a starting point of draft prospects to focus on.

I don't buy your CSS/Kentucky thread line, not sure why you keep pecking away at it. More coincidence with a side of better relationship that causation IMO

If Donovan Mitchell was not CAA or if Jaden Ivey was not CAA, Knicks would have still pursued.

4 for 4 this summer. Brunson, Hartenstein, Ivey and Mitchell. Toppin was CAA and Quickley was Kentucky. Grimes is the only first round anomaly in 3 seasons. I think there’s a large enough sample size here. Not saying they won’t pursue other players, but this is where they will have the most intel.

That is real. They will use second rounders on guys who don’t fit that mold I call those “Aller’s picks”. Grimes was also someone who they had a lot of intel on based on him being a upperclassman, doing well in the tourney, and then doing well in the 5-on-5 combine.

Nalod wrote:teams don’t trade down very often and even rarer with a fair amount of prospects. If they do they will ask for a kings ransom.
Fans think its there for the taking but a losing franchise needs a sure thing.
ATL traded what became Luka Doncic for the picks used to draft Trae Young and Cam Reddish. Think the fan base remembers day of picking and what the thinking of the moment was? No. They see Luka kicking ass. Trae is good, very good. Gotta nail that second pick.
Im cherry picking here.
Then there is Fultz for Tatum/Langford trade.
Those are top of the order type trades that backfired. Trying to think of those that did not?
Anyway Its expensive but moving up a few spots to grab a high conviction player seems more typical.
Aller is talented at moving about the lower first round and Perry and the legions of execs are doing well in the draft the last few years.
There is gold to be had in the draft as evident by SGA and DM but the key is to have picks and create the opportunities that create the luck.

Bolded -- the truth so many cannot see.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Unless the Knicks get hit hard with injuries/ bad luck etc and compete for the top of the draft, it’s not even worth discussing the top guys. But here’s what’s worth discussing. This past summer the Knicks 2 free agent signings were Brunson and Hartenstein, both CAA clients. 2 summer trade pursuits were for Donavan Mitchell and jaden Ivey, both CAA clients. For what it’s worth, that will always be the front offices priority, to take advantage of those relationships. And same with Kentucky. So with just a focus on 1st round prospects, here’s a list so far.

Dillion Mitchell - signed with CAA for endorsements. Big wing who is a freak athlete. Shooting may keep him out of top 10

Kel’el Ware- CAA endorsement signee- shot blocker and rim runner

Jalen Hood-Schifino - CAA endorsement signee- big playmaking guard who needs to develop shot

Chris Livingston- Kentucky guy- big wing with 3&D skill set

Cason Wallace- Kentucky guy- defensive combo guard who can do a little of everything

Obviously there may be more CAA guys to emerge but with the way this front office operates, this is a starting point of draft prospects to focus on.

I don't buy your CSS/Kentucky thread line, not sure why you keep pecking away at it. More coincidence with a side of better relationship that causation IMO

If Donovan Mitchell was not CAA or if Jaden Ivey was not CAA, Knicks would have still pursued.

4 for 4 this summer. Brunson, Hartenstein, Ivey and Mitchell. Toppin was CAA and Quickley was Kentucky. Grimes is the only first round anomaly in 3 seasons. I think there’s a large enough sample size here. Not saying they won’t pursue other players, but this is where they will have the most intel.

What % of players in league rep'ed by CAA or went to Kentucky?

Yes a fair amount. But in the grand scheme it’s only a small percentage ? Like maybe what 15%? Knicks draft, free agent and trade target are all majority these players. Only grimes and a couple of free agent signees in 3 years don’t check either box. Even guys signed to roster filler deals, Kidd-Gilchrist, D Bacon, Rivers, Pinson, trade for Ed Davis. you name it. All CAA guys. They like Haliburton and Vassell but Toppin was repped by his son. But if Toppin was gone guaranteed it was going to be one of them.