Their job is not get blown out in the first and third and dont cough up the lead the bench gives you.

Rose/IQ/Grimes/Obi/Hart

Their job is for 20 minutes or so a night out play the other team's bench and I love that. This is going to be a VERY HUNGRY 2nd unit. NBA has a lot of good bench players, especically scorers, but this is really a standout group and doesnt include Cam or McBride.

a lot of teams have spent a lot of money on superstars and even their starting five might have holes and especially the bench

if we play 10 and they play a full 48 min a game we will win 49 games this year precisely as i predicted!

The 2nd unit was the best part of last years team and I don't think that changes this year...

Nalod wrote:Grimes finished games in place of EF in a number of games for his defense. This is were it all gets started. If When that happens then there is a logic that he should start also. This also improved EF’s numbers.
The notion that fans can plug and play and run with hit going forward is their prerogative.
That was a coach actually coaching, not just trying **** out.
Grimes needed to improve in certain areas and that remains to be demonstrated.

Not if but when.

Grimes finished games last year while EF sat on the bench.

There was a few times when EF finished games towards the end, but thats when his offense was clicking which means he had more defensive energy / confidence. Again, EF is the classic vet where his offense dictates his overall play. Glad to hear Thibs say the same thing (he must be reading my threads ).

EF should be the starter and Grimes should be the finisher. My question is IQ and Rose. Both used to log heavy minutes in the 4th (due to injury or game play). Now we talking about 3 guards who could possibly finish games. My guess is only 1 of those 3 will finish in the 4th, now that we have JB. Rose and IQ playing time is difficult to predict, especially if Grimes has been elevated and the addition of JB. Plus EF will be his normal sharp shooting self and (I believe his defense will improve).

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:Grimes finished games in place of EF in a number of games for his defense. This is were it all gets started. If When that happens then there is a logic that he should start also. This also improved EF’s numbers.
The notion that fans can plug and play and run with hit going forward is their prerogative.
That was a coach actually coaching, not just trying **** out.
Grimes needed to improve in certain areas and that remains to be demonstrated.

Not if but when.

Grimes finished games last year while EF sat on the bench.

There was a few times when EF finished games towards the end, but thats when his offense was clicking which means he had more defensive energy / confidence. Again, EF is the classic vet where his offense dictates his overall play. Glad to hear Thibs say the same thing (he must be reading my threads ).

EF should be the starter and Grimes should be the finisher. My question is IQ and Rose. Both used to log heavy minutes in the 4th (due to injury or game play). Now we talking about 3 guards who could possibly finish games. My guess is only 1 of those 3 will finish in the 4th, now that we have JB. Rose and IQ playing time is difficult to predict, especially if Grimes has been elevated and the addition of JB. Plus EF will be his normal sharp shooting self and (I believe his defense will improve).

Thibs could put Grimes at the "wing" in combination with IQ and Rose. It's all matchup dependent. I'm hopeful Cam puts it all together and makes this decision even more difficult, but that doesn't appear likely.

Kemet wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Brunson/Fournier/RJ/Randle/Mitch isnt bad. Lots of size and finally a floor general.

Their job is not get blown out in the first and third and dont cough up the lead the bench gives you.

Rose/IQ/Grimes/Obi/Hartm

Their job is for 20 minutes or so a night out play the other team's bench and I love that. This is going to be a VERY HUNGRY 2nd unit. NBA has a lot of good bench players, especically scorers, but this is really a standout group and doesnt include Cam or McBride.

Agree that this will be a big plus for us. Unless of course the youngins act like youngins and experience growth pains. Think the chemistry that has developed, with second unit, will prevent any major issues though. Curious to see how Rose now fits in. Love his leadership but,won't lie, was excited to see a IQ, Grimes, Cam, Obi and Hart lineup. Which was one of the reasons I fought a bit with the JB signing. Do think that because of Rose's age and injury history we may eventually get to see that lineup.

Having D.Rose leadership & Brunson creativeness closing games down the stretch give Knicks the edge at being a 6th seeded team at end of season !!!
I only hope Cam Reddish step-up on his defense having a 6.8 frame to be in D.Rose dynamic bench lineup instead of Grimes.

Deuce needs more minutes. He might be a better defender than Frank.

wargames wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Cam isn’t that good, plain and simple. At least not in the NBA obviously.

Deuce needs more minutes. He might be a better defender than Frank.

Let’s not write off Cam yet. Also the starting unit actually looked cohesive with Brunson out there. It’s crazy but this team hasn’t had a good PG who wasn’t out their prime since Marbury or maybe that first Felton run.