Nalod wrote:Mykhailiuk — one of just two Ukrainian players in the NBA — had been on a guaranteed veteran’s minimum deal but got waived by the Raptors last month. The 6-foot-7, 205-pound swingman averaged 4.6 points in 56 games for the Raptors.
The 25-year-old was born in Cherkasy and has played on the Ukrainian National Team.
Non guaranteed deal. Did not shoot well from long range but is a good defender.
He gets a chance. We a bit thin a the three as currently constructed. I guess much to say about Cam that gets sorted in camp.

Papabear Says

Thibs wanted him because he plays defense also. The way the NBA is today you play offense offense great shooters. Thibs think you can win a game through defense. Yes you can. But the way Thibs play he will keep his players in till they pass out and wont put in a young fresh players. Coaches like Thibs are the thing of the pass.You have to have great shooters and that we don't have.

Papabear wrote:

Nalod wrote:Mykhailiuk — one of just two Ukrainian players in the NBA — had been on a guaranteed veteran’s minimum deal but got waived by the Raptors last month. The 6-foot-7, 205-pound swingman averaged 4.6 points in 56 games for the Raptors.
The 25-year-old was born in Cherkasy and has played on the Ukrainian National Team.
Non guaranteed deal. Did not shoot well from long range but is a good defender.
He gets a chance. We a bit thin a the three as currently constructed. I guess much to say about Cam that gets sorted in camp.

Papabear Says

Thibs wanted him because he plays defense also. The way the NBA is today you play offense offense great shooters. Thibs think you can win a game through defense. Yes you can. But the way Thibs play he will keep his players in till they pass out and wont put in a young fresh players. Coaches like Thibs are the thing of the pass.You have to have great shooters and that we don't have.

The Knicks whole team is under 30 except DRose.

Thibs overplays Randle. That's literally it. Have you watched the Knicks recently?

Nalod wrote:Svi shot 35% two seasons ago from the 3. Last year it dipped.
Was it nagging injury? Lost ability? Raptors cut him loose.
WE talking 14th-15th man? He just in for the run to get a euro contract and play?
Euro insurance? Ukrainian cool factor? Is he still a citizen?
As for Thibs gassing his players? Drose was youngest MVP. He played as much as most MVP;s do. A lot.
Nobody complained when ;we here1; randle was all NBA? Has anyone talked with Randle this off season? I have not.
Whats his outlook? He want out? I talked with Leon, no wait, I did not. Anyway he did not tell me what the plan is and how Randle comes in this season regarding minutes, Iso, shot selection, attitude, outlook, and how Thibs will coach him.
Thibs said last year he need to coach him better. I have not spoken to Thibs either about how he plans to do that.
Randle seems over his 3 years here to have slimmed down. Not that he was fat, but every video he looks like he has changed his body.

Common Fan perceptions to things we read:

If he is working on his handle, guess its means more turnovers.
If he is loosing weight, must be grumpy.
If his wife had a baby, must be nooky issues.
If he bringing the ball up the court, must be defying his coach.
If he iso, must be locking out his mates.
If he is getting assists, and he does, must be cuz his mates are red hot.

How did this turn into a Randle thread?

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Nalod wrote:Mykhailiuk — one of just two Ukrainian players in the NBA — had been on a guaranteed veteran’s minimum deal but got waived by the Raptors last month. The 6-foot-7, 205-pound swingman averaged 4.6 points in 56 games for the Raptors.
The 25-year-old was born in Cherkasy and has played on the Ukrainian National Team.
Non guaranteed deal. Did not shoot well from long range but is a good defender.
He gets a chance. We a bit thin a the three as currently constructed. I guess much to say about Cam that gets sorted in camp.

Papabear Says

Thibs wanted him because he plays defense also. The way the NBA is today you play offense offense great shooters. Thibs think you can win a game through defense. Yes you can. But the way Thibs play he will keep his players in till they pass out and wont put in a young fresh players. Coaches like Thibs are the thing of the pass.You have to have great shooters and that we don't have.

The Knicks whole team is under 30 except DRose.

Thibs overplays Randle. That's literally it. Have you watched the Knicks recently?

we may end up having to forfeit games. Between the roster being so young and Thibs only playing 5 old guys the math just isnt adding up.

bearded thibs comes in with a clean slate

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:Svi shot 35% two seasons ago from the 3. Last year it dipped.
Was it nagging injury? Lost ability? Raptors cut him loose.
WE talking 14th-15th man? He just in for the run to get a euro contract and play?
Euro insurance? Ukrainian cool factor? Is he still a citizen?
As for Thibs gassing his players? Drose was youngest MVP. He played as much as most MVP;s do. A lot.
Nobody complained when ;we here1; randle was all NBA? Has anyone talked with Randle this off season? I have not.
Whats his outlook? He want out? I talked with Leon, no wait, I did not. Anyway he did not tell me what the plan is and how Randle comes in this season regarding minutes, Iso, shot selection, attitude, outlook, and how Thibs will coach him.
Thibs said last year he need to coach him better. I have not spoken to Thibs either about how he plans to do that.
Randle seems over his 3 years here to have slimmed down. Not that he was fat, but every video he looks like he has changed his body.

Common Fan perceptions to things we read:

If he is working on his handle, guess its means more turnovers.
If he is loosing weight, must be grumpy.
If his wife had a baby, must be nooky issues.
If he bringing the ball up the court, must be defying his coach.
If he iso, must be locking out his mates.
If he is getting assists, and he does, must be cuz his mates are red hot.

How did this turn into a Randle thread?

Evident assumptions from fans about players. I used Randle to demonstrate.
They all become about Randle. He is the new Melo.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:

Nalod wrote:Svi shot 35% two seasons ago from the 3. Last year it dipped.
Was it nagging injury? Lost ability? Raptors cut him loose.
WE talking 14th-15th man? He just in for the run to get a euro contract and play?
Euro insurance? Ukrainian cool factor? Is he still a citizen?
As for Thibs gassing his players? Drose was youngest MVP. He played as much as most MVP;s do. A lot.
Nobody complained when ;we here1; randle was all NBA? Has anyone talked with Randle this off season? I have not.
Whats his outlook? He want out? I talked with Leon, no wait, I did not. Anyway he did not tell me what the plan is and how Randle comes in this season regarding minutes, Iso, shot selection, attitude, outlook, and how Thibs will coach him.
Thibs said last year he need to coach him better. I have not spoken to Thibs either about how he plans to do that.
Randle seems over his 3 years here to have slimmed down. Not that he was fat, but every video he looks like he has changed his body.

Common Fan perceptions to things we read:

If he is working on his handle, guess its means more turnovers.
If he is loosing weight, must be grumpy.
If his wife had a baby, must be nooky issues.
If he bringing the ball up the court, must be defying his coach.
If he iso, must be locking out his mates.
If he is getting assists, and he does, must be cuz his mates are red hot.

How did this turn into a Randle thread?

Evident assumptions from fans about players. I used Randle to demonstrate.
They all become about Randle. He is the new Melo.

I would be thrilled if Randle was half as good as Melo. We're stuck with him for the time being so I'm rooting for him to have somewhat of a bounce back season.

LOL, we debated so many things about Melo over the years. There was young melo,, then dadbod melo on his extension. Sure we love melo now but we went on and on about him for along time!
All the threads became about Melo, PhilJax, and Tony Wroten!

ramtour420 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:We hate our all stars, we love our 15th man.

It expectations. They are based on merit.