Eight teams control 85 first round picks over the next seven years.

The Utah Jazz and Oklahoma City each have 14 incoming picks, while the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks have 11, the New Orleans Pelicans, Indiana Pacers and Orlando Magic have nine, and the Houston Rockets have eight.

The Pelicans and Thunder began this league-wide trend with their trades in 2019 of Anthony Davis and Paul George respectively.

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Caseloads wrote:The NBA has seen a surge of blockbuster trades in recent seasons in which teams have sent out an inordinate amount of future first round picks.

Eight teams control 85 first round picks over the next seven years.

The Utah Jazz and Oklahoma City each have 14 incoming picks, while the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks have 11, the New Orleans Pelicans, Indiana Pacers and Orlando Magic have nine, and the Houston Rockets have eight.

The Pelicans and Thunder began this league-wide trend with their trades in 2019 of Anthony Davis and Paul George respectively.

From REALGM

Something to consider when talking about trading for a star. Utah and OKC’s draft picks overall are move tradeable than the Knicks because they are unprotected. Basically they are both much better situated to trade for a star if they decide to do so.

the Spurs picks are also more unprotected too. The rest of the list is more or less a collection of protected picks like the Knicks or they are coming from really good teams like the picks Houston has.

I think this is interesting because while the Cavs basically seem to have got Mitchell either through tenacity or the Jazz’s spite. When future star players hit the market I think the Knicks would have a lot more competition. Especially if it’s a top tier player. Mitchell was great but wasn’t top 10. Let’s say a really good player hit the market like Booker or Zion. Unless the other team thought very highly of the Knicks youth, I think they would get traded elsewhere, just like Mitchell.

This is flaw to really consider with the Knicks current draft pick Strategy. The Mitchell saga basically highlighted that the best picks the Knicks can trade are their own. To really use draft picks to chase a star. The Knicks will have to lean even further into collecting future assets or change the “get the established star” strategy and look to add/upgrade talent by drafting/trading for guys with upside they think can develop into something more.

gradyandrew wrote:

wargames wrote:

Caseloads wrote:The NBA has seen a surge of blockbuster trades in recent seasons in which teams have sent out an inordinate amount of future first round picks.

Eight teams control 85 first round picks over the next seven years.

The Utah Jazz and Oklahoma City each have 14 incoming picks, while the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks have 11, the New Orleans Pelicans, Indiana Pacers and Orlando Magic have nine, and the Houston Rockets have eight.

The Pelicans and Thunder began this league-wide trend with their trades in 2019 of Anthony Davis and Paul George respectively.

From REALGM

Something to consider when talking about trading for a star. Utah and OKC’s draft picks overall are move tradeable than the Knicks because they are unprotected. Basically they are both much better situated to trade for a star if they decide to do so.

the Spurs picks are also more unprotected too. The rest of the list is more or less a collection of protected picks like the Knicks or they are coming from really good teams like the picks Houston has.

I think this is interesting because while the Cavs basically seem to have got Mitchell either through tenacity or the Jazz’s spite. When future star players hit the market I think the Knicks would have a lot more competition. Especially if it’s a top tier player. Mitchell was great but wasn’t top 10. Let’s say a really good player hit the market like Booker or Zion. Unless the other team thought very highly of the Knicks youth, I think they would get traded elsewhere, just like Mitchell.

This is flaw to really consider with the Knicks current draft pick Strategy. The Mitchell saga basically highlighted that the best picks the Knicks can trade are their own. To really use draft picks to chase a star. The Knicks will have to lean even further into collecting future assets or change the “get the established star” strategy and look to add/upgrade talent by drafting/trading for guys with upside they think can develop into something more.

Of the teams on that list, only the Pelicans and Knicks have any interest in winning games this season. Everyone else will wait until the draft to see who ends up with the top picks and where it gets them. Especially at the trade deadline, some team (or teams) will be looking to lose any vets they can to take a Portland type dive and move up in the lottery.

As of right now. If the right level of Star hit the market that could change. Also over time that could change as well. If they don’t hit on Victor or Scoot but Booker or Zion (or another star) hit the market, why wouldn’t they consider them an option.

At the end of the day regardless if they are trying to save money, reset, or make a playoff push. All NBA teams motivation is to get better. Thinking that what the Knicks have now is enough is ignoring what just happened with the Cavs as well as assuming too much on what other offices are willing to do. Holding out for a “star” isn’t a bad strategy but the Knicks would have to continue to collect assets because they have legitimate competition based on the assets they already have.

martin wrote:

wargames wrote:

Caseloads wrote:The NBA has seen a surge of blockbuster trades in recent seasons in which teams have sent out an inordinate amount of future first round picks.

Eight teams control 85 first round picks over the next seven years.

The Utah Jazz and Oklahoma City each have 14 incoming picks, while the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks have 11, the New Orleans Pelicans, Indiana Pacers and Orlando Magic have nine, and the Houston Rockets have eight.

The Pelicans and Thunder began this league-wide trend with their trades in 2019 of Anthony Davis and Paul George respectively.

From REALGM

Something to consider when talking about trading for a star. Utah and OKC’s draft picks overall are move tradeable than the Knicks because they are unprotected. Basically they are both much better situated to trade for a star if they decide to do so.

the Spurs picks are also more unprotected too. The rest of the list is more or less a collection of protected picks like the Knicks or they are coming from really good teams like the picks Houston has.

I think this is interesting because while the Cavs basically seem to have got Mitchell either through tenacity or the Jazz’s spite. When future star players hit the market I think the Knicks would have a lot more competition. Especially if it’s a top tier player. Mitchell was great but wasn’t top 10. Let’s say a really good player hit the market like Booker or Zion. Unless the other team thought very highly of the Knicks youth, I think they would get traded elsewhere, just like Mitchell.

This is flaw to really consider with the Knicks current draft pick Strategy. The Mitchell saga basically highlighted that the best picks the Knicks can trade are their own. To really use draft picks to chase a star. The Knicks will have to lean even further into collecting future assets or change the “get the established star” strategy and look to add/upgrade talent by drafting/trading for guys with upside they think can develop into something more.

On the other hand, which stars are pining to play in Utah or OKC? Versus a place like NYC?

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

wargames wrote:

Caseloads wrote:The NBA has seen a surge of blockbuster trades in recent seasons in which teams have sent out an inordinate amount of future first round picks.

Eight teams control 85 first round picks over the next seven years.

The Utah Jazz and Oklahoma City each have 14 incoming picks, while the San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks have 11, the New Orleans Pelicans, Indiana Pacers and Orlando Magic have nine, and the Houston Rockets have eight.

The Pelicans and Thunder began this league-wide trend with their trades in 2019 of Anthony Davis and Paul George respectively.

From REALGM

Something to consider when talking about trading for a star. Utah and OKC’s draft picks overall are move tradeable than the Knicks because they are unprotected. Basically they are both much better situated to trade for a star if they decide to do so.

the Spurs picks are also more unprotected too. The rest of the list is more or less a collection of protected picks like the Knicks or they are coming from really good teams like the picks Houston has.

I think this is interesting because while the Cavs basically seem to have got Mitchell either through tenacity or the Jazz’s spite. When future star players hit the market I think the Knicks would have a lot more competition. Especially if it’s a top tier player. Mitchell was great but wasn’t top 10. Let’s say a really good player hit the market like Booker or Zion. Unless the other team thought very highly of the Knicks youth, I think they would get traded elsewhere, just like Mitchell.

This is flaw to really consider with the Knicks current draft pick Strategy. The Mitchell saga basically highlighted that the best picks the Knicks can trade are their own. To really use draft picks to chase a star. The Knicks will have to lean even further into collecting future assets or change the “get the established star” strategy and look to add/upgrade talent by drafting/trading for guys with upside they think can develop into something more.

On the other hand, which stars are pining to play in Utah or OKC? Versus a place like NYC?

Yeah, what really hurt negotiations is that Spida had multiple years on his deal. Even if he wanted to force his way here, he didn't have the leverage to do so. There will be other scenarios for aquiring a star. The Donavon fit just wasn't a natural one.

All I am saying is if the Knicks want a star player they need to continue to gather assets. Mitchell didn’t have a lot of serious suitors but the next star might. A lot of the extra picks the Knicks have were disregarded by Ainge which probably won’t change next time either.

They probably need to consolidate those protected assets into stronger ones. Similar to how they took a heavily protected pick and converted it into Reddish.