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blkexec
Posts: 27849 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
9/5/2022 10:04 AM
martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: DRose is one of the few vets I would love to have back. He’s a perfect mentor on and off the team and he adds value. Probably cuts into some of the yoots mins but not much. I believe deuce is the only player who might be impacted by Rose which is fine with me. As much as I want deuce to succeed I have to realize he’s not ready yet and will probably be a late bloomer. But I want to see Grimes, IQ and Obi shine. With RJ and now Brunson leading the charge. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37639 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
9/5/2022 5:25 PM
EwingsGlass wrote: The onus is on him to learn how to be effective off ball. He8not going to get those iso situations often. Mikal is versatile enough to blend into any offense. I feel that Cam needs to grow into that Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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blkexec
Posts: 27849 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
9/5/2022 5:35 PM LAST EDITED: 9/5/2022 5:38 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote: I agree…..BUT….regardless how ready he looks to fans, thibs not playing him over the vets and especially over RJ. There’s no minutes for cam if thibs is the coach 😔 Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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MS
Posts: 26929 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/28/2004 Member: #724 |
9/5/2022 5:38 PM
Need to find a way to move Fournier to open up minutes for Reddish to see what he can bring to the table otherwise he’s going to languish and die on the bench.
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ToddTT
Posts: 28148 Alba Posts: 52 Joined: 8/30/2001 Member: #105 |
9/5/2022 5:42 PM
MS wrote:Need to find a way to move Fournier to open up minutes for Reddish to see what he can bring to the table otherwise he’s going to languish and die on the bench. Oh my god! They killed Cam! YOU BASTARDS!!! |
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nyvector16
Posts: 21308 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/9/2001 Member: #130 USA |
9/5/2022 6:12 PM
We traded Knox and a 1st rounder to Hawks that never conveyed.. so in essence is was a straight swap Knox for Reddish..
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Alpha1971
Posts: 22482 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/17/2022 Member: #9006 |
9/5/2022 6:29 PM
That dumb trade of the 19th pick for a future heavily protected pick, that the Knicks traded for Cam is still a dumb move. I get the team wants to punt but when trading out of a draft at least trade for a future pick that can be better then the one you gave up.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37639 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
9/5/2022 6:36 PM
blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote: Yeah, it makes you wonder why they made the trade in the first place. Hopefully Thibs had took time to look back at last season and realize all the lost opportunities for youth development. No one once to see Randle moping up and down the court with no energy. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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martin
Posts: 68946 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
9/5/2022 7:06 PM
I think the Knicks signed two vastly underrated jems: Brunson and especially Hartenstein.
Hartenstein gonna be Noah 2.0 with a three point shot a year from now. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 26150 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
9/5/2022 7:07 PM
blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote: I have him slotted as second chair SF. The guard situation is the hard part. It’s already spilling over into SF. Brunson/Rose/IQ/McBride/Fournier/IQ/Grimes/Keels And Technically Barrett are all fighting for those same minutes. I think Reddish’s wingspan puts him in the conversation. But I would be looking to move on from some of the guards. This is the Randle.
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 26150 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
9/5/2022 7:10 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:That dumb trade of the 19th pick for a future heavily protected pick, that the Knicks traded for Cam is still a dumb move. I get the team wants to punt but when trading out of a draft at least trade for a future pick that can be better then the one you gave up. I might be the only person that is pro-Reddish. I think with a good camp he jumps the line on a lot of guys waiting for minutes. I loved that trade. In fact, I proposed last offseason. There is a reason why the Lakers are trying to pry him away. This is the Randle.
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blkexec
Posts: 27849 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
9/5/2022 7:20 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:That dumb trade of the 19th pick for a future heavily protected pick, that the Knicks traded for Cam is still a dumb move. I get the team wants to punt but when trading out of a draft at least trade for a future pick that can be better then the one you gave up. I love him as well….I also love deuce so not sure if that’s a good thing on this board at least. Question, who does he jump ahead of? Brunson That’s your 10 man rotation. Who’s out? Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 26150 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
9/5/2022 7:51 PM
Brunson/Rose/IQ/McBride
Fournier/IQ/Grimes/Keels Barrett/Grimes/Reddish/Hunt Randle/Toppin/Sims/Reddish Robinson/Hart/Sims I’d guess depth chart looks like this, but Grimes is undersized at SF. Not sure if Grimes takes those minutes in the 2nd unit or not, but walking into camp, Reddish has to win that role. That said, I think he has the ability to win those minutes. I know people are in love with Grimes, but I think we are overlooking what Reddish brings to the table. This is the Randle.
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
9/5/2022 8:37 PM LAST EDITED: 9/5/2022 8:38 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote: Reddish for that price was a steal… literally and they made Atl send them a second rounder for Knox. I think he plays this year. I don’t think Thibs wanted to deal with incorporating him into the lineup while trying to scrape enough wins for a playin chance. This year he should have a defined role. The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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blkexec
Posts: 27849 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
9/6/2022 12:29 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:Brunson/Rose/IQ/McBride Us fans are not overlooking Cam, might be his coach or how the FO built this team. But your first 10 are similar to mine. And cam falls into the 11th man spot in a fight with Sims. We are simply too deep right now. A few vet trades will help like Fournier for example. The only problem is Fournier is our best shooter so that will hurt our outside shooting. Cam is more of a iso scorer when you need a bucket. And his defense is underrated. Can’t go into the season with this roster, the way it’s constructed. Not with tight rotation Thibs at the helm. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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Kemet
Posts: 22087 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/23/2015 Member: #6148 |
9/6/2022 2:24 AM LAST EDITED: 9/6/2022 2:28 AM
blkexec wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Brunson/Rose/IQ/McBride I'm sure Cam Reddish will be 82 Games healthy to start his final season contract year. |
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Chandler
Posts: 26028 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
9/6/2022 8:31 AM
Thibs will insist he earn minutes but Cam at the 3 would be nice if he can handle the defense. I like (and have always preferred) RJ at 2 so he can play bully-ball. Can see Cam playing 4 situationally and RJ playing 3. that said, until Cam starts earning minutes i see EF at 2 and RJ at 3 Grimes will have to earn minutes too (5)(5)
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Nalod
Posts: 68748 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/6/2022 8:33 AM
Kemet wrote:blkexec wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Brunson/Rose/IQ/McBride Thats the best Kemet optimism can muster! Yes, lots of questions for sure. One cannot fault thibs for not developing players when calling for Obi, Grimes, Deuce, and IQ to supplant the vets. |
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martin
Posts: 68946 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
9/6/2022 9:06 AM
Nalod wrote:I agree, Cam was not in the plan when the trade was made. coach don’t decide certain trades and he is trying to win games and has to sub in all that yoot that proved worthy given injuries. Cam is yoot and Thibs don’t trust him yet. Lets just say Reddish rep is not that great either. But FO wants to give it a shot. Im ok with creating opportunities and given how many picks we have its ok to buy a player you can see and a bit further in the process. 19th picks should it convayed is not guarantee and perhaps if cam was a senior would he be worth that spot? Here is optimism for you regarding the Cam-Knox trade. IMHO the Knicks FO pulled a VERY smooth deal in their own favor. Knicks got Cam and a 2025 Brooklyn second round pick (and Solomon Hill who they let go). Atlanta got Knox and a CHA protected pick THAT NEVER TRANSFERRED, it's GONE. Knicks literally got trade value for Kevin Fucking Knox. This trade will only come full circle if they resign Cam to a contract and then have to use that 2025 second round pick to move him lol Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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