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BigDaddyG
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8/15/2022  10:30 PM
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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smackeddog
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8/16/2022  5:25 AM
Careful what you wish for, new owners can always be worse, they just tend to get a pass by much of the press (especially Mark Cuban) because they're too busy focusing on Dolan over the most trivial of things and because he treats them real mean!
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8/16/2022  7:13 AM
Dolan finally gets the right people in to help run things so we don't hate him daily, and then he decides to sell?

I haven't thought about Dolan once with Rose in.
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8/16/2022  9:56 AM
Nobody could be worse than Dolan...only (possibly) just as bad. And the probability is an improvement.
Caseloads
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8/16/2022  10:19 AM
Dolan has apparently kept a blank cheque available for the teams and did nothing to interfere the past two years. Rangers are great and Knicks are upward bound. Keep on Dolan.
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8/16/2022  10:23 AM
Moonangie wrote:Nobody could be worse than Dolan...only (possibly) just as bad. And the probability is an improvement.

How quickly you forget the Wilpons. Basically take Dolan and make him poor (by professional sports owners standards) and there you go.
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8/16/2022  4:09 PM
Caseloads wrote:Dolan has apparently kept a blank cheque available for the teams and did nothing to interfere the past two years. Rangers are great and Knicks are upward bound. Keep on Dolan.

There was a point to which this became true. I think the McKinsey report years ago set the path on the straight and narrow. lets say the moment he fired Grunwald and stopped taking Isiah's input.
Has it worked? No. But that happens. Good things don't execute or translate. Phil was such a thing. Starphuching ended. Winning has not ensued but at least we are not doubling down on stupidity.
Dolan made some bad decisions. I long said change the decision making process and you can enact change. No, it has not happend yet. Winning is hard.
Nalod
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8/17/2022  8:48 AM
Rich rich flush owner with dubious past but lessons learned exhibiting solid fundamental approach vs. cash starved equity fund eager to leave their mark and perhaps making rook mistakes?

Sacremento new ownership has done little.
Utah: TBD.
Memphis: Took a good thing and kept it going.
Nets: Starphuchers dream
Minny: In transition that started with solid core

I know Dolans past. Owners, coaches and FO can change on a dime. Players not so. The notion that “same old knicks” is easy to adopt. Facing the future is never easy.
Media takes the easy path to gain short term readership. The daft eat it up.
Moonangie
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8/17/2022  10:44 AM
Nalod wrote:Rich rich flush owner with dubious past but lessons learned exhibiting solid fundamental approach vs. cash starved equity fund eager to leave their mark and perhaps making rook mistakes?

Sacremento new ownership has done little.
Utah: TBD.
Memphis: Took a good thing and kept it going.
Nets: Starphuchers dream
Minny: In transition that started with solid core

I know Dolans past. Owners, coaches and FO can change on a dime. Players not so. The notion that “same old knicks” is easy to adopt. Facing the future is never easy.
Media takes the easy path to gain short term readership. The daft eat it up.

What do you know about the PE interests considering the purchase that leads to your description of "cash starved"?
Nalod
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8/17/2022  12:41 PM
Moonangie wrote:
Nalod wrote:Rich rich flush owner with dubious past but lessons learned exhibiting solid fundamental approach vs. cash starved equity fund eager to leave their mark and perhaps making rook mistakes?

Sacremento new ownership has done little.
Utah: TBD.
Memphis: Took a good thing and kept it going.
Nets: Starphuchers dream
Minny: In transition that started with solid core

I know Dolans past. Owners, coaches and FO can change on a dime. Players not so. The notion that “same old knicks” is easy to adopt. Facing the future is never easy.
Media takes the easy path to gain short term readership. The daft eat it up.

What do you know about the PE interests considering the purchase that leads to your description of "cash starved"?

Bad things can happen to super wealthy owner or group that runs into trouble and can't make the call for more funding becomes problematic.
This is generic and not specific to any group that would purchase it. This would be a massive purchase. League seemingly does a good job of financially vetting its owners.

With Knicks money has not been the issue. MSGS obviously took a hit in the Pandemic.
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8/17/2022  1:39 PM
Dolan has actually been quietly doing the right things last couple years. The rangers have been very good and the Knicks have been at least competitive and trying to build the right way last 3 years


Woody Johnson needs to sell the jets like today
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