CashMoney wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:CashMoney wrote:I know this is a touchy subject but IMO abortion is and always has been murder.Believe it or not, a woman becoming pregnant is not the easiest of occurrences. Timing is paramount in order to conceive and perhaps it will make people more responsible for their actions.
I've knocked up one woman in my life and it was on purpose. We planned on having our child and it took months of timing and trying in order to get the job done. It's not by some miracle that I impregnated my wife once and only once in 20 years of marriage. If anyone would like to be a smartass my sex life is great and I get laid whenever I want.
My wife had a friend who had 4 abortions after becoming pregnant by the same guy. A logical person would have smartened up after the 1st time but nope. They kept doing what they did knowing what could happen but it was okay because sex was better without precaution.
A woman is a carrier of life and that is a fact. Being a woman comes with that responsibility.
It's not the easiest thing in the world to conceive but it is easy to act reckless and 'get rid' of aka murder a child.
I'm happy to have a rational discussion on this topic if anyone would like to have a rational discussion.
When do you feel life begins? Take religion out of it. When do you believe a fetus has consciousness. I don't believe life starts in the first trimester and the science really hasn't been there to convince me otherwise. A woman should have "the choice" of whether she wants to be a carrier of life. It's not up to me, or you whoever to legislate that.
I'm not religious at all and I believe life begins at fertilization.
I give no thought to when a fetus has consciousness because consciousness is a state in which the unborn will eventually arrive.
Regardless of when the fetus arrives at consciousness, it doesn't change that consciousness will be achieved if termination doesn't occur.
A woman is a carrier of life and it's not by choice because it's biological.
When engaging in sexual intercourse the possibility exists that fertilization can occur. An unwanted/unexpected pregnancy doesn't change the fact that the pregnancy occurred because the possibility always existed although unlikely and not anticipated. The choice was made to engage in sexual intercourse.
If I were to choose to leave my home tonight and drive around drunk I may not expect to get pulled over and arrested. If I choose to drive drunk, get pulled over, and arrested I won't be able to erase my decision. I would need to live with the consequences of my action.
A best-case scenario is that I don't get pulled over and arrive home safely. A worst-case scenario is that I kill someone because of my decision but in either scenario, I cannot erase the decision I made or the outcome.
Why should a woman be given "the choice" to erase a consequence of her action especially when the choice results in eliminating life?
This is carrying a seriously condescending tone. The woman should face consequences for "her action"? My wife and I are trying very hard to conceive right now. Closing in on a year without luck. If this happens for us, there is absolutely zero part of us that WANT an abortion.
But if we found out there were complications, if my wife's life was at risk by carrying to term, I'm supposed to look at her and say "Hey, you knew what you were getting into when you let me do that to you. YOU should have been more careful." ?
Abortions aren't just there because Jane Doe's out there getting it every weekend and can't be bothered to use contraceptives.
If you don't care when consciousness takes over, hope you've never rubbed one out solo, that could have been several lives wasted in that sock.
Btw, DWI attorneys are a thing. They're there to make sure someone who got pulled over after a beer and didn't kill anyone doesn't have to face a life sentence (or at least 18 years).