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simrud
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11/16/2004  10:11 PM
TT is just horrible. The Knicks are forcefeeding him all night, and he is missing and turning it over again and again. The entire offense is stagnated as they are subbornly giving the ball to Fugazy. This just awful. I can't even watch that **** no more.

Just cut the pathetic waste of life.
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11/16/2004  10:18 PM
I agree....the Knicks waste so much time trying to get the ball to him in the post...where he has trouble establishing position and fighting off his guy (Manu). By that time they are down to 7-8 secs on the shot clock.
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11/16/2004  10:19 PM
TT is atleast doing other things. His shots aren't falling but he still has about 11 points and 7 rebs.
That's a step up atleast.
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11/16/2004  10:29 PM
He's not getting cut no matter how bad he is.
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11/16/2004  10:54 PM
I give in. It's official. TT royally sucks. Can't post. Spotty shooter. Horrible passer. Turnover prone. Zero D.
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11/16/2004  10:57 PM
Who cares if he happened to luck in into 7 rebounds tonight, he turned the ball over, shot terribly, held the ball for far to long, and generally was a human negative out there.
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11/16/2004  11:00 PM
I got Two words for him.

Buy out.
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11/16/2004  11:03 PM
If he doesn't pick up soon, atleast bring him off the bench. See if it lights a fire under him...and pray he doesn't get comfty on the pine.
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11/16/2004  11:05 PM
Best case sceanario would be for him to break a leg and seat out the rest of the year, so we can play Penny and Ariza or JYD over him and actualy get positive contribution fromt he SF position. He makes too much money for a buyout, and certainly can't be cut no matter how much I scream for that to happen.

Man I want KVH back. Doleac, too. He could shoot at least. Mohammed haf freakin like 3 rebounds today. Pathetic. How many close shots did he miss?

Man, this trade is going down as one of the worst ever. Iseah needs to do somethign quicly or he will get run out of town by the play of two pet projects, TT and Mohammed in no time.
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11/16/2004  11:25 PM
I think the ball fell into TT's lap today, but check out the other stats: 0 Assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals, 5 turnovers.
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11/16/2004  11:27 PM
give him at least 10 games then bench him
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11/16/2004  11:28 PM
Posted by simrud:

Mohammed haf freakin like 3 rebounds today. Pathetic. How many close shots did he miss?

we can pick this up in the I LOVE NAZR thread, but I think he is doing OK. 3 rebounds tonight and 15 the other night. It all evens out. The guys is a small time role player, who is doing his role. Expectations are kind of low - where they should be - and he is beating them. He is picking up touch, stupid fouls, but maybe those will disappear.
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11/16/2004  11:38 PM
I would just like to know who is playing D and who isnt?
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11/16/2004  11:41 PM
Posted by Kwazimodal:

I would just like to know who is playing D and who isnt?

JYD is, the rest of the Knicks are not.
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11/17/2004  12:06 AM
Posted by Andrew:

where he has trouble establishing position and fighting off his guy (Manu).
ya dude, that really really got me worried. This guy could not get in position to get the ball in the post cause MANU who is 4 inches and 35 lbs lighter was fighting him off. ALL GAME LONG!! What is the deal with this guy??

If we come back from Texas and TT is not showing any good signs, it would be time to bench him.
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11/17/2004  12:19 AM
I'll give him 8 more games after the Texas trip since the schedule gets a lot easier. If he doesn't improve then bench or trade him or peanuts
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11/17/2004  12:26 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

I'll give him 8 more games after the Texas trip since the schedule gets a lot easier. If he doesn't improve then bench or trade him or peanuts
I know we expected a lot more from him but can we really afford to wait that long as a team?
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11/17/2004  1:00 AM
it could take sometime fpr him to have that turning point game. I think he will because if you look at his career he's had some good stretches not just bad stretches like this one.
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11/17/2004  9:12 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Kwazimodal:

I would just like to know who is playing D and who isnt?

JYD is, the rest of the Knicks are not.

Thats not good to hear.Isiah is going to have to put this on the coach sooner or later,hopefully sooner.
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[Edited by - kwazimodal on 11/17/2004 09:13:52]
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