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BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

martin wrote:And so it starts…

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So that puts to rest trading randle there (was pretty much ruled out for a while anyways)

Means detroit can't trade him to the Kings to move up, which may mean they think they can get Ivey at 5 if the Kings stay pat.

Also means no OG to the blazers (rumors were blazers were trying to work out a trade of the 7th Pick for him).

Wonder if the pistons are going after Ayton with a max offer

I wouldn't call that Mitch extension just yet. Jalen Brunson also might have found himself some legit leverage

Good call. Can't believe the Pistons are satisfied with moving Grant for a Bucks 1st round pick. This move was made to clear salary for a bigger move. They now have 43 million in salary cap space.

Ayton

If you're Portland though, suddenly you're looking to field a veteran team, what do you do with #7?

As an unbiased party, Dame/Grant/Randle looks solid! Will take Bledsoe and that troublesome pick off your hands...

MaTT4281 wrote:What the hell is Detroit doing? I can't imagine they couldn't find a better offer for Grant than a protected pick 3 years later.

If you're Portland though, suddenly you're looking to field a veteran team, what do you do with #7?

As an unbiased party, Dame/Grant/Randle looks solid! Will take Bledsoe and that troublesome pick off your hands...

Grant got overrated by the bball writers due to the surprise start he had with the Pistons (If he'd been a knick and had exactly the same performance the past 2 seasons, every piece would be saying how he had little to no value round the league). After that he cooled down, was quite inefficient and became in jury prone. Plus he wants a max or near max extension once his deal expires next offseason. Ironically his best role is the one he signed with Detroit to get away from- as a 3rd or 4th option. As a 1st or 2nd, he's just not good enough.

A Thibs coached team of:

PG- Brogdon
SG- ?
SF- RJ
PF- Randle
C- Mitch

would be as dull and aimless as the team we had to watch this year before the young players got the mins. I don't get the strategy- where's that team going? You're blocking the younger guys from having bigger roles with older vets who's salaries are not attractive to other teams, yet are avoiding a high pick, but are also blocking any cap space. Unless the plan is Brogddon is so injury prone, IQ will eventually get his chance at starting PG. It would be like the Scott Laden era Mark 2 in terms of dullness

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But, Sac will entertain offers right up to the moment because they can. Unless all bidders back out. They will have either had the bids there on the table and pick one, or they got pulled.

Detroit has cap space and while Grant went cheap, thats the price of cap space. They get a player with it and its not cheap. Its why many deals don’t get done. Talk on Knicks Film school was using Fornier, pick (s) and Cam. Something today, something new, something in the future. Can’t say what the picks were.

Lets be real also, next year picks are valuable. Even the Dallas pick. While we all want the sugar rush today one has to be cool about what it gets spent on. IVey alone won’t turn us this season, but I agree its worth pursuing.

So is Brunson at the right price. KFS intimated we help the kid by bidding it up. If not there, we take him. If it gets expensive, Uncle Leon helped Jalen out as a good friend. Win-Win.

If Grimes is the real deal then he can step in for EF and we get cap space. Seems foolish to blow that to resign Mitch but that might be the price to keep him. can’t fault the knicks for that as Mitch was not worthy early given injury history.
I don’t love mitch, but he the best we got unitl otherwise. I just want that deal to be trade worthy. EF came free. So it was cap space used then released. Not terrible.

Rokas as a chip to SAC? Credit to KFS also where I heard it. Not saying it was a rumor but it was discussed. Of course I want to see him in a knick uni but the question is he or after his successful stash season be a lottery pick today if he was coming out and if so, can they undo (in part of course) some of the Luka backlash. EF, Cam, Roka for the 4? Its easy to say throw in the 11 and we’d be happy? Is that too much. They want Rokas right away? Thats adding three players. A lot to digest. I could be off base that we need to use the 11, or the Dallas pick next year, or some of our 2nd round wealth for next year. At what point do you INTELLECTUALLY draw the line and not do the deal? Fans have too much emotionality for this. We want it!!!! Want it all! Want it now!!!!!