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JesseDark
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6/7/2022  2:56 PM
https://www.bballrumors.com/2022/06/nba-rumors-kings-offering-4th-pick-for.html?fbclid=IwAR21Fc1tdh0BprqX-BOu-YEFsq98EgWp52w8NgfxASj6JgfKe735PKJxAYg

Don't know if this is just click bait, but my immediate thought is Randall and a swap of draft positions plus filler.

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6/7/2022  3:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2022  3:52 PM
From that article the 6th and 7th pick would be the sweet spot for them. its quite a leap to get from 11 to 4. the writer assumes POrtland or Indy also does not want to "Win now"?

For trade options, O'Connor uses such theoretical examples as going back to the Indiana well, and trading the 4th pick to the Pacers in return for the 6th pick plus Malcolm Brogdon. Another option would be Josh Hart and the seventh pick from Portland.

There are many possibilities, and O'Connor expect there to be "plenty of buzz" on draft night surrounding the Kings.

Its a good "theoretical" and logical suggestion. He uses Brogdon and Hart as assets but they might be more of a dump? What is Fornier value outside of knick fans who don't like him. WE all knew he was not known for his defense and after a slow start he did play quite well and his contract outside of those that don't like him is not that bad. Im not saying he and the 11 gets you 4. But it gets you somewhere. What knick player would equate to the 6th or 7th pick? Obi? Does EF? Obi? and the 11th get you close? What about Dallas pick next year? I don't expect them to make another Semifinal run but the pick could be mid of the pack? Does Cam figure in here some place?
What about Portland? They really want to build for now and move up to get Ivey who will need some time to develop? Is Ivey next to Haliburton what Indy wants? Indy has Duarte.

Harrison Barnes has one more year on a declining contract. About 18mm left. He is 30 and solid. does he factor in here? I doubt it.
separately I think Griimes is a high value trade chip as his production for the money is pretty significant.

The obvious "Randle" as a chip is a tough one. Lets be real and objective about randle and his value. It depends on how "offended one is" by his rejection of boo's.

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6/7/2022  4:14 PM
Nalod wrote:From that article the 6th and 7th pick would be the sweet spot for them. its quite a leap to get from 11 to 4. the writer assumes POrtland or Indy also does not want to "Win now"?

For trade options, O'Connor uses such theoretical examples as going back to the Indiana well, and trading the 4th pick to the Pacers in return for the 6th pick plus Malcolm Brogdon. Another option would be Josh Hart and the seventh pick from Portland.

There are many possibilities, and O'Connor expect there to be "plenty of buzz" on draft night surrounding the Kings.

Its a good "theoretical" and logical suggestion. He uses Brogdon and Hart as assets but they might be more of a dump? What is Fornier value outside of knick fans who don't like him. WE all knew he was not known for his defense and after a slow start he did play quite well and his contract outside of those that don't like him is not that bad. Im not saying he and the 11 gets you 4. But it gets you somewhere. What knick player would equate to the 6th or 7th pick? Obi? Does EF? Obi? and the 11th get you close? What about Dallas pick next year? I don't expect them to make another Semifinal run but the pick could be mid of the pack? Does Cam figure in here some place?
What about Portland? They really want to build for now and move up to get Ivey who will need some time to develop? Is Ivey next to Haliburton what Indy wants? Indy has Duarte.

Harrison Barnes has one more year on a declining contract. About 18mm left. He is 30 and solid. does he factor in here? I doubt it.
separately I think Griimes is a high value trade chip as his production for the money is pretty significant.

The obvious "Randle" as a chip is a tough one. Lets be real and objective about randle and his value. It depends on how "offended one is" by his rejection of boo's.

I don't see it. The Kings will have better offers on the table than anything the Knicks can offer that makes sense. Maybe they like guys who miss 2.4 shots for every one they make and give the ball up nearly as many times as they get an assist? Vlade is no longer there and I don't think the Kings current front office is that dumb. Any two of Obi, Grimes annnnddd IQ might spark interest along with 11. The assets given up by the team trading up are substantial. Maybe throw in one unprotected future pick and a couple of swaps?

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6/7/2022  7:54 PM
Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.
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6/7/2022  9:09 PM
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

You know I gonna spin wit it
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6/7/2022  9:51 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

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6/7/2022  10:22 PM
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

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6/8/2022  8:44 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

Awful fit at both ends imo and with Fox having the ball the majority of the time, Randle will go stretches where he's just a catch and shoot 3rd option and he's not a great shooter.

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6/8/2022  9:35 AM
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

Troll!

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6/8/2022  9:36 AM
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

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I would endorse a move Randle for the 4th pick with Dallas pick as a sweetner and take back one year of Harrison Barnes.

With the taint on randle it inspired me to do this:

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Julius-Randle/Comparison/24301/Harrison-Barnes/2372

Randle since he got to NOLA has put up good numbers. Turnovers aside of course. No, he is not a player to put on his back and carry them to and thru the playoffs. He is not paid as such. Barnes has never reached statistically his level but sure as **** was paid as one at one time.

Can Sac do better? Maybe the can and should if so. But they are not my concern. Knicks are.
Ivy I doubt steps in and is impactful right away. With Barnes we can give Reddish and Obi minutes.
Maybe with that “Old Brock Magic” he can get us a pick late in the first round (no disrespect to Perry, Perrin, and Wes) and get us another rook.

More liky we doing a consolidator type trade. I don’t know if Sac can take back more players. Get a 3rd team involved? OK.
We don’t make the playoffs unless RJ and OBI really step it up and Ivy is out of the gate special. That would be great too!
Im just thinking fans would welcome Ivey but not the patience of another sub 40 win season.

We have assets that are expendable to make a deal. Dallas pick, our pick(s), one of Grimes or Redish, Drose and his 13mil, Deuce (trade value unknown), and one of Obi or Randle. Mitch I suppose has some trade value. Norlens is a talent, but healthy?
EF is not the disaster some chaffed fans think he is. He has trade value as does IQ and Kemba for his 9mil for a team that we have to pay to take. RJ is not on the table in most scenarios. I don’t want him in a Donovan Mitchell deal nor do I want to burn 4 1st round picks. I like DonMitch, but at what price? At 6-1 and a bit thick I see either a Lowrey type career (good) or something that becomes less if he loses a step. Wingspan only goes so far.

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6/10/2022  1:25 PM
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

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6/12/2022  10:34 PM
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

Randle is getting traded next February or getting a buy out next summer. We need to keep Obi

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6/13/2022  9:18 AM
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

Randle is getting traded next February or getting a buy out next summer. We need to keep Obi


No matter how may times your shown how buy outs work, you still spew this ignorant response.

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6/14/2022  3:37 AM
JesseDark wrote:https://www.bballrumors.com/2022/06/nba-rumors-kings-offering-4th-pick-for.html?fbclid=IwAR21Fc1tdh0BprqX-BOu-YEFsq98EgWp52w8NgfxASj6JgfKe735PKJxAYg

Don't know if this is just click bait, but my immediate thought is Randall and a swap of draft positions plus filler.

Give up Randle, he doesn't want to be here no more.
But he won't clearly say or sign out! 😎

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6/14/2022  10:43 AM
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

Randle is getting traded next February or getting a buy out next summer. We need to keep Obi


What do you think about a Randle for Ben Simmons or Michael Porter Jr trade?

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gradyandrew wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

Randle is getting traded next February or getting a buy out next summer. We need to keep Obi


What do you think about a Randle for Ben Simmons or Michael Porter Jr trade?

I'll take the player who can get on the court who might need some Phil Jackson/Thibs Zen like mental tinkering to the player who might just not be able to stay healthy.

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6/15/2022  3:13 PM
franco12 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

Randle is getting traded next February or getting a buy out next summer. We need to keep Obi


What do you think about a Randle for Ben Simmons or Michael Porter Jr trade?

I'll take the player who can get on the court who might need some Phil Jackson/Thibs Zen like mental tinkering to the player who might just not be able to stay healthy.


Randle is like that girlfrirend you live with that you desperately want to move on from, but you just try to grind it out until the lease is up in several months
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6/19/2022  5:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/19/2022  6:00 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
franco12 wrote:
gradyandrew wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
technomaster wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:Kings have a history of being dumb but I cannot see them viewing Randle as a win now player.

You don’t like the Randle/Sabonis combination?

LOL. I mean, I really like both (fantasy) players - more so Sabonis because Randle's FG% is not good.

2020-2021 Randle was really a phenomenal point-forward - very Lebron-esque... Lebron with a jumper? Obviously this past season was a step back to merely being very good, but also not a winning player.

If you had a lottery pick, how do you view Obi based on his little showcase over the last 5 games of the NBA season as a starter? 27.2ppg, 2.8apg, 18/37 from 3pt range. Wouldn't you want a mobile do-it all combo-big that plays above the rim, runs the break, and hits 3s to pair with a grounded big like Sabonis?

Consider what you'd get out of Obi with a legit PG like Fox getting him the ball. Wow.

(To be honest, I really don't have a good sense of this draft - I'm not sure who we're gunning for with #4 or #11.)

Obi is perhaps our most valuable trade asset- and given that no matter how many here want Randle gone, he's likely here for the near/medium term as the FO just paid him and I doubt ready to jettison/admit to a bad decision.


Obi & Pick 11 for 4? Does that work? If I have 4- I might do it as I plug two holes.

Obi, 11 & the future Dallas pick?

If Obi is so valuable maybe we should just simply keep him


We haven’t seen Obi play with an actual pg yet.

Obi is probably more valuable to the Knicks as part of a trade package.

Unless there is a way to get rid of Randle, Obi has limited prospects here.

Randle is getting traded next February or getting a buy out next summer. We need to keep Obi


What do you think about a Randle for Ben Simmons or Michael Porter Jr trade?

I'll take the player who can get on the court who might need some Phil Jackson/Thibs Zen like mental tinkering to the player who might just not be able to stay healthy.


Randle is like that girlfrirend you live with that you desperately want to move on from, but you just try to grind it out until the lease is up in several months

Randle is about to turn into that crazy ex wife who takes all your money and won’t let you see your kids
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6/20/2022  12:45 PM
the more i think about this the more i think this will boil down to three maybe four options

Utah offering Gobert; Ainge trying to get some high value and maybe fix a locker room. Conly is old. they have to convince themselves the pairing with Mitchell makes sense

Detroit. they obviously have the higher pick but i think the whole point is they want an impact player now. still might happen in view of rumors that Ivey doesn't want to play there and who blames him. Detroit would likely have to part with J.Grant

Knick. I still think Randle. Yes the first question is how does he play with Sabonis... But same question existed for Cleveland, how does Mobley play with Allen and Lauri and Love. WOuld be an easier "sell" to fanbase since Randle was an actual AS and All NBA. Obi would be option B but i don't see that as win now. Either Kings think Randle works or they don't -- IMO

Maybe Wizards. Saw a rumor about pick 10 and Kuzma. Makes some sense. wizards have a lot of forwards especially if you fold Rui back into the equation.

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Kings offering 4th pick for a win now player

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