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When you look at both after 3rd season, its favorable trajectory!
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Nalod
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6/6/2022  12:57 PM
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/RJ-Barrett/Comparison/103893/Jaylen-Brown/52544

big strong 2's that can play both wing positions. The PER's by age and Years of service are compelling.

Im more inclined to look at this than get horny about pro day video's put out by an agent.
RJ is not Kobe, or fluid like T-mac. He is not likely to be Devon booker or have an early trajectory of a HOF candidate.
Turns 22 next week.
Jaylen turns 26 by next season, came in league after two years of college. He is an allstar. So are these guys:

Compared to Demarr Derozen:
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/RJ-Barrett/Comparison/103893/DeMar-DeRozan/1605

Bradley Beal:https://basketball.realgm.com/player/RJ-Barrett/Comparison/103893/Bradley-Beal/24148

Jimmy Butler:
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/RJ-Barrett/Comparison/103893/Jimmy-Butler/6160

Zach Lavine:
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/RJ-Barrett/Comparison/103893/Zach-LaVine/41396

These guys have had all star seasons in hindsight. Im looking at their first three years. If you looking for "why does knicks hold RJ in high regard" this is in part some of the reasons.
Players on the incline are not easy to peg. Its not something we are used to around here!

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gradyandrew
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6/9/2022  12:12 PM
PER by YOS took me a second to figure out. Good find! Sometimes I worry about his percentages.
martin
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6/9/2022  2:04 PM
This is good stuff, never seen those RealGM pages before.

The biggest thing for me that separates RJ from the rest: his shooting ability. For wings, I am constantly looking at eFG% and TS%. RJ is swimming below 50% for eFG% and that's the biggest tell for me. If he can't figure out how to be an efficient scorer, there is nothing else to report on his long term career ability as a high end player.

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Nalod
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6/9/2022  2:35 PM
martin wrote:This is good stuff, never seen those RealGM pages before.

The biggest thing for me that separates RJ from the rest: his shooting ability. For wings, I am constantly looking at eFG% and TS%. RJ is swimming below 50% for eFG% and that's the biggest tell for me. If he can't figure out how to be an efficient scorer, there is nothing else to report on his long term career ability as a high end player.

Yeah, he needs to shoot a bit better. I think Thibs pulled a Fiz/Knox this year and let him just ****ing play. He is not a finished product at age 21 and three years under his belt. Im not her to guarantee a thing, but if we gonna break the bad run we have to let our youth play out! We did it with IQ this season. Obi is a late bloomer. He got run. Why does not matter. Injuries matter and Obi showed promise but Thibs is not blocking them, he is developing them.

I baseball you get hot hitters and you go with them. In Basketball the season for fans is not broken down for us to see how early stats might not matter. For example a players first 20 games vs last tells a big story, but we look at the whole thing and base our arguements that way. But, we all saw RJ’s first 6 weeks were not like the last. EF played much better his last two months vs first two. Same for IQ and OBI. Instead we do “Bullock was good, they went to conf finals, we suck and EF sucks and we should get rid of him”. We should do this after he build chemistry and did better?
I read: “We should fix Randle, then trade him for better value”. We flipping houses with hidden problems? No, we keep him because he is “fixed”. The assumption is he’ll repeat and fall back? Why? “Cuz thats what happend”!
Does everything repeat itself? Is this how it works?

When you look at both after 3rd season, its favorable trajectory!

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