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EwingsGlass
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5/22/2022  9:06 PM
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Big hands. Big Wingspans. Not showing on the agility.

Other winners are Kennedy Chandler, Shaeden Sharpe and Okchai Agbaji. Dyson Daniel’s showing good size numbers with his 6’11 wingspan.

Mark Williams sized out the best in draft but there are not athleticism numbers to judge him by.

At 11,I am running Sharpe, Eason, Agbaji, Daniel, Chandler. Chandler might be in front of Dyson. Need to see them a little more head to head, but if Eason is on the board, it doesn’t matter.

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5/22/2022  10:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/22/2022  10:42 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

Big hands. Big Wingspans. Not showing on the agility.

Other winners are Kennedy Chandler, Shaeden Sharpe and Okchai Agbaji. Dyson Daniel’s showing good size numbers with his 6’11 wingspan.

Mark Williams sized out the best in draft but there are not athleticism numbers to judge him by.

At 11,I am running Sharpe, Eason, Agbaji, Daniel, Chandler. Chandler might be in front of Dyson. Need to see them a little more head to head, but if Eason is on the board, it doesn’t matter.


Don't forget Marjon, with his seven foot wingspan and 9" hands. A few other guys, but those are some of the ones that stood out physically. Also forgot about Liddel, who is bit more athletic and lengthy than I gave him credit for. Oh, another one I forgot to add 2as Jalen Williams, who's made a name for himself at the combine.
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5/22/2022  11:07 PM
I wonder how good combine workouts have historically translated to NBA careers.
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5/22/2022  11:46 PM
Wow Eason is a beast. And Mark Williams is huge.
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5/23/2022  9:24 PM
If he trains hard he’ll be 6-8 235 w a 7-2 wingspan huge hands. He’ll have that dominant type wing body. If he works on his left hand he’ll be a tough to deal w 3 level offensive player. Already possibly the best defensive player coming in. Top 5 defensive prospect
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5/24/2022  12:14 AM
KnickDanger wrote:I wonder how good combine workouts have historically translated to NBA careers.

Like everything else, I suppose. Sometimes you have you're Olowakandis and sometimes you have you're Vince Carters. Every once in a while you get FVVs and Jalen Brunsons. If combine measurements were all that mattered, than scouting would be easy.

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5/24/2022  7:58 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I wonder how good combine workouts have historically translated to NBA careers.

Like everything else, I suppose. Sometimes you have you're Olowakandis and sometimes you have you're Vince Carters. Every once in a while you get FVVs and Jalen Brunsons. If combine measurements were all that mattered, than scouting would be easy.

Bane is the most recent example how combine measurements hurt his draft stock. We need to forget the long arms and find the short gem that people are over looking because he doesn’t have the measurements people want. Regardless if it translates to basketball. This is how smart GMs can find a diamond on the rough.

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5/24/2022  8:01 AM
And if Kennedy is moving up the draft chart I might listen to certain trades for IQ or Deuce. I’m a huge fan of both players but Kennedy is also a PG and if IQ can fish is a bonifide player like mitchel from the jazz. This will be an interesting and telling off season for players and the FO
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5/24/2022  9:14 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I wonder how good combine workouts have historically translated to NBA careers.

Like everything else, I suppose. Sometimes you have you're Olowakandis and sometimes you have you're Vince Carters. Every once in a while you get FVVs and Jalen Brunsons. If combine measurements were all that mattered, than scouting would be easy.

physical tools will always have an impact on a player's arc.. def not all that matters but a very important piece of data. Outlier athletes like Sharpe are so hit or miss because their game IQ and work ethics tend to be quirky at best as a result of always being the fastest/strongest/quickest on the floor like their whole lives until now.

IQ/Obi/Sims/McBride/Grimes all fit in that sweet spot of athletic enough to hang with just about anyone but not so much more than others where they can rely on that. These are the types of guys were being a gym rat actually makes them better on both sides of the ball and I really like that our FO seems to draft in that sweet spot (Rokus might be the exception, as his scouting is def skill based)

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5/24/2022  9:32 AM
I dont know who this guy is but he's 7 feet tall and weighs 174 lbs... like how is that even possible? Im 6'3 185 and skinny as phuck these days.
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5/24/2022  10:05 AM
fishmike wrote:I dont know who this guy is but he's 7 feet tall and weighs 174 lbs... like how is that even possible? Im 6'3 185 and skinny as phuck these days.

Yeah, he's got skills, but his body is two years away from being two years away.

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5/24/2022  10:18 AM
I saw somewhere that the Knicks are high on Sochan and have invited him for pre-draft workouts. Sochan is one of the best defenders in this draft but I prefer Eason because of his two-way potential.
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5/24/2022  10:25 AM
Uptown wrote:I saw somewhere that the Knicks are high on Sochan and have invited him for pre-draft workouts. Sochan is one of the best defenders in this draft but I prefer Eason because of his two-way potential.

Yeah, I like Season too. But, I admit that I don't have him over Sochon by a huge margin. I can see why someone would Sochan over Eason. If Sochon projects into a quality corner three-point shooter, then his defensive versatility becomes an even greater asset. But I'm still not sold on his shot being projectable.

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5/24/2022  10:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/24/2022  10:42 AM
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Uptown wrote:I saw somewhere that the Knicks are high on Sochan and have invited him for pre-draft workouts. Sochan is one of the best defenders in this draft but I prefer Eason because of his two-way potential.

Yeah, I like Season too. But, I admit that I don't have him over Sochon by a huge margin. I can see why someone would Sochan over Eason. If Sochon projects into a quality corner three-point shooter, then his defensive versatility becomes an even greater asset. But I'm still not sold on his shot being projectable.

That is the separation for me. Both are really good defenders, but Eason has show to have a better shot than Sochan who shot 59% from the free throw line and 29% from 3 last year. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Eason make a Patrick Williams like jump into the top half of the lottery in June.

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5/24/2022  10:57 AM
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fishmike wrote:I dont know who this guy is but he's 7 feet tall and weighs 174 lbs... like how is that even possible? Im 6'3 185 and skinny as phuck these days.

Yeah, he's got skills, but his body is two years away from being two years away.

wow look how the league's evolving. small forward, wing, skinny forward. bring back manute and ralph sampson

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5/24/2022  10:57 AM
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BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I wonder how good combine workouts have historically translated to NBA careers.

Like everything else, I suppose. Sometimes you have you're Olowakandis and sometimes you have you're Vince Carters. Every once in a while you get FVVs and Jalen Brunsons. If combine measurements were all that mattered, than scouting would be easy.

Bane is the most recent example how combine measurements hurt his draft stock. We need to forget the long arms and find the short gem that people are over looking because he doesn’t have the measurements people want. Regardless if it translates to basketball. This is how smart GMs can find a diamond on the rough.

Bane is more of an outlier than the rule. Your argument is akin to validating scratch off tickets as a money making scheme because your friend won $100 on a $5 ticket. He is one of 9 other players in the NBA that have a wingspan less than their height. Your approach is essentially gambling where you found one or two decent players out of .5% of NBA players that make up the group of players with a negative length. Tyler Herro is the other. That's the definition of an outlier. Yes, outliers exist. With the 30 pick (or undrafted) you can gamble that a shooter will pan out and develop enough defensive skill to stay in the league. Most people with that anthro measurement don't make it into this league.

https://craftednba.com/player-traits/length

My point isn't that you should choose that length over other tangible stats. I am not taking Tari Eason over Shaeden Sharpe given the opportunity. ITs that it is a functional measurement that results in specific defensive prowess.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1

But late first round, a guy like EJ Liddell stands out. Undersized PF, but he screams SF all day. With a 12.2 BMI he still has a 38" vertical and good wingspan measure at 6'11.75. And shot 37% from 3 this past year. He is a bit undersized for a PF, but if he cut weight, he has near ideal size and stats for a SF in the NBA. When I look at anthro stats, this is what I look for. Its where Jericho Sims stood out. Guys that have interesting measurements and abilities for their position to create mismatches. If he is there at 42, I would not think twice. I think he is gone in the 20s though.

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5/24/2022  12:01 PM
Marv wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:I dont know who this guy is but he's 7 feet tall and weighs 174 lbs... like how is that even possible? Im 6'3 185 and skinny as phuck these days.

Yeah, he's got skills, but his body is two years away from being two years away.

wow look how the league's evolving. small forward, wing, skinny forward. bring back manute and ralph sampson

Dude needs a sammich or 3

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5/24/2022  6:47 PM
Knixkik wrote:Wow Eason is a beast. And Mark Williams is huge.

Looking at the post combine top 50, he’s around 12 or 13 range. So maybe he’s there at 11.

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5/24/2022  7:10 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If he trains hard he’ll be 6-8 235 w a 7-2 wingspan huge hands. He’ll have that dominant type wing body. If he works on his left hand he’ll be a tough to deal w 3 level offensive player. Already possibly the best defensive player coming in. Top 5 defensive prospect

Why I liked the Reddish move. I'm sick of playing with smaller wings. More length at SF is a must

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