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MaTT4281
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11/16/2004  6:58 AM
Tonight we take the court in Texas. I am predicting Knicks win 106-102 just because.

I'm hoping Sweetney can somehow manage to get Duncan in some foul trouble with all his new moves he had been displaying this season.
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11/16/2004  10:48 AM
If the Knicks just show up, I'll be happy.
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11/16/2004  1:37 PM
everytime we play any of these teams with a star player we get killed. Just once I want to see one of our $15mm a year players actually carry us to a win. I so dont care how many points Marbury scores when we lose to the Pacers in a game we were never really in.

Everytime we play a team with a guy like Duncan, Dirk, McGrady, Pierce, Oneil, on and on we get abused. I know its a work in progress and we do I have some good young players and I believe in those players but my god our payroll is 100mm and so far that buys you wins against Phili and Wash and teams like that.
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11/16/2004  1:38 PM
I'm sorry but I just dont see the Knicks winning tonight. Jermaine dominated us, I can just imagine what Duncan's gonna do, it aint gonna be pretty.
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11/16/2004  3:56 PM
They should forfeit these three games and save us all the embarrassment.
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11/16/2004  4:13 PM
This is a good matchup for the Knicks.








Just kidding.
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11/16/2004  4:24 PM
all ball baby, all ball!
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11/16/2004  4:28 PM
we need to fight every night. Play every game like we did against Minn opening night. If we do that we will be a close to .500 road team. We could go something like 18-21 on the road and with this team thats VERY good. So far thats the only road game we have played like that. Against Indy its was the same old Knicks.

Is this coaching? Maybe... Is this leadership from the players? Probably a combo of both. But I will say that defense isnt a priority for TT, Crawford or Marbury when the game starts. We will see what happens tonight. because if it isnt Parker and Ginobili will light up our backcourt before we can even worry about how to guard Duncan.
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11/16/2004  4:41 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Just once I want to see one of our $15mm a year players actually carry us to a win.

i would too, but the problem is...he's on IR!!!

as time goes on, it has become more and more apparent how people that criticize h20 often look over this very important aspect to his game..you know, CARRYING THE TEAM!!!

ok, enough of the h20 rant.

the last time we won down there, it was h20 carrying us by simply abusing bowen, ginobili, and stephen jackson.

marbury usually has his way with parker but ginobili is playing at another level right now. i think tim needs to post up IMMEDIATELY and if he stinks it up, put ariza on manu. he's going to be the pain in the butt during the critical points in the game. duncan will have 30 & 15 but it's manu and parker/barry that i'm worried about.

there's no way in my good conscience can i predict a knicks win here. they should lose but i hope they prove me wrong.
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11/16/2004  4:57 PM
but this is exactly my point. We fought hard in Minn but came up short because Minn is better. We didnt fight hard in Indy and they won because they are better. The thing is we have some guys that can get hot, but to stick around and pull out wins we need to fight our butts off like we did in Minn for 3 quarters. If we do that we will can get a win here and there. Then you look at your first 5 road games against Minn, Indy, San, Dal and Hous and you go 2-3 and thats pretty damn good.

Problem is with the effort we put in we are looking at a big fat 0-5. Thats why we are a 25th in the powerrankings and every writer dogs us. Show something.
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11/16/2004  5:20 PM
Posted by taps:

They should forfeit these three games and save us all the embarrassment.

That's a little extreme. Are you gonna be the guy saying "I knew they could do it" if we actually pull off a win.
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11/16/2004  5:42 PM


Tonight, I will be rooting for Knicks, Sonics (vs. Sixers), and Clips (vs. Raptors).

If we can grab a W vs. San Antonio, we can hopefully ride the momentum for the next few games, but it all starts tonight.
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11/16/2004  5:49 PM
I want to see Nazr, Kurt, Sweets and the Dog REAL active on the boards and in the paint. Craw, Marbs and TA flying all over the place. Penny and TT as the wild cards. We need high energy like in the Philly game. If we do that, I'll take our chances on the game.

[Edited by - marv on 11/16/2004 17:50:18]
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11/16/2004  6:08 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:
Posted by taps:

They should forfeit these three games and save us all the embarrassment.

That's a little extreme. Are you gonna be the guy saying "I knew they could do it" if we actually pull off a win.

No I'll would be surprised and then look at our record and see that were 2-6 or 3-5 and still be mad.
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11/16/2004  8:37 PM
Tim Thomas missed his first shot, but then hit his second. 50% would be good for Timmy.
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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11/16/2004  8:39 PM
Marbury needs to pick it up on both ends. Parker's made him look bad twice. Timmy hits a 3. Craw just undressed two guys!
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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11/16/2004  8:40 PM
crawford just got "sic wit it" left ginoboli wondering
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PhilinLA
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11/16/2004  8:41 PM
We're not getting any rebounds...
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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11/16/2004  8:43 PM
I just realized again, NAZR HAS NO HOPS FOR 6"10
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11/16/2004  8:45 PM
Damn, I wish we had Duncan! That guy is serious!

I remember when he first came in the league they were trying to compare him and KVH

LMAO

Damn, I wish we had a Duncan type.......

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