TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Only few people I can’t stand — he is one of them. Obnoxious individual and now a 100% team killer.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yy3u6abh

https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Lakers.htm

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/4066457/austin-reaves

Russell Westbrook
Austin Reaves
1st round pick ( 2027)
Future 2nd rounders ( Flex)
Trade Exception ( Rondo)

For

Julius Randle
Alec Burks
Nerlens Noel
Kemba Walker

Walker is basically dead money. He's not helping the Knicks this upcoming season and he's only eating a roster spot and cap space and potentially blocking McBride, Grimes, Rokas, etc, from minutes.

Noel is now a constant potential injury risk. While I quite like him, finding a serviceable pivot for cheap isn't impossible in the current marketplace.

Randle is a toxic player. He got paid and then reverted back to his typical selfish ******* type play and honestly get him the **** out of town and off this team. His disgusting lack of effort is unforgivable. Send him to the mess that is the Lakers.

Burks being gone clears playing time for McBride/Grimes/Rokas/etc/etc.

Reaves is young and cheap. I think he's worth a flyer. A future first round could be very very valuable. Just sit on RWB and keep him benched until he accepts a team favorable buyout so he can go to a contender and ring chase.

Get as many future 2nd rounders are you can. Brock Aller has shown he can absolutely mine the back end of the draft for something useful. So give him future ammo to do it.

Thibs can't lean on veterans and not play the young players if you get rid of most of the veterans. And let's not forget, despite all of RWB's flaws, the guy always plays hard. At least he won't saunter down the court like he's going for a walk on the beach like Randle. If Thibs wants to run him into the ground until he's injured, OK, go ahead.

While I like the part where we ship off Randle and the rest I would only do this if we have a buyout on place before we commit to the trade. Get Westbrick to buy him out and have his 40 mil salary come off the books next year - good. Getting him so that Thibs has another shiny new vet to play in from of our young core -bad.

On the other, RWB and the group of our young bucks should be fun to watch. To me personally, on an emotional level, it beats the prospect of watching several years of frustration and mediocrity as a fringe playoff team. Except that I would be worried that some of RWB's bad 'tude and habits would rub of on our young players.

Having said that, on a rational level, I would also like to see Knicks trying to find continuity and consistency. Blowing up teams every 2-3 years and firing coaches every year has become a tiresome thing to watch. So maybe easy does it, and we should stay patient with this Randle-Thibs team for a couple of more years, at least until Thibs's contract us up. As painful as it may be to accept right now, perhaps it would be a better way towards the ultimate goal of building a contender.

Yes, watching RWB's version of not playing D is going to be much more fun to Thibs than Randle's **** show this past season. Great, RWB plays hard. He's also dumber than a jar full of **** and he wouldn't bother to guard most of the posters on this site.

Maybe we can trade Randle for KP and a bag of used condoms?

I understand the Randle hate. I just don't understand the incoherence of most of these trade proposals. Let's stick with mildly stupid things like Utah sending us Gobert or Donovan for things including our multiple sacks of projectile vomit like Kemba and Noel.

SergioNYK wrote:If you want to ruin RJ, you get Westbrick.

I'd only trade for Westbrick if we were to waive/buy him out immediately.

agreed, I've always been Russell fan way in past
however Russell Westbrook is James Harden v2.0 part2
only WORSE than James. Both toxic NBA stars whom
best days are farthest behind them.

Solely after the $$$$$

gradyandrew wrote:I think if we trade Randle, Thibs is going to. He loves Julius too much.

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TPercy wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Only few people I can’t stand — he is one of them. Obnoxious individual and now a 100% team killer.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yy3u6abh

https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Lakers.htm

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/4066457/austin-reaves

Russell Westbrook
Austin Reaves
1st round pick ( 2027)
Future 2nd rounders ( Flex)
Trade Exception ( Rondo)

For

Julius Randle
Alec Burks
Nerlens Noel
Kemba Walker

Walker is basically dead money. He's not helping the Knicks this upcoming season and he's only eating a roster spot and cap space and potentially blocking McBride, Grimes, Rokas, etc, from minutes.

Noel is now a constant potential injury risk. While I quite like him, finding a serviceable pivot for cheap isn't impossible in the current marketplace.

Randle is a toxic player. He got paid and then reverted back to his typical selfish ******* type play and honestly get him the **** out of town and off this team. His disgusting lack of effort is unforgivable. Send him to the mess that is the Lakers.

Burks being gone clears playing time for McBride/Grimes/Rokas/etc/etc.

Reaves is young and cheap. I think he's worth a flyer. A future first round could be very very valuable. Just sit on RWB and keep him benched until he accepts a team favorable buyout so he can go to a contender and ring chase.

Get as many future 2nd rounders are you can. Brock Aller has shown he can absolutely mine the back end of the draft for something useful. So give him future ammo to do it.

Thibs can't lean on veterans and not play the young players if you get rid of most of the veterans. And let's not forget, despite all of RWB's flaws, the guy always plays hard. At least he won't saunter down the court like he's going for a walk on the beach like Randle. If Thibs wants to run him into the ground until he's injured, OK, go ahead.

Even if you bite on this trade, Westbrook can't under any circumstances suit up for our team. I understand the need to clear Randle's contract(I still think you gotta try and rehab his value a little bit) but his play is way bettter than RWB. He's a turnover machine, plays no defense, can't shoot at all or finish at the rim. He's alll of randle's flaws on drugs on top of taking zero accountability.

Lebron has never coexisted with a ball dominant point guard ever. The only time he ever did was 2 years with Kyrie in Cleveland and they got sick of eachother and he forced a trade

Yes Westbrook sucked last year but Lebron had a lot to do with it

He had an off year, even by his standards. He is also young and is never not able to play because of nagging injuries.

And then we go to battle with either Mitch, Randle, Obi as your big three up front next year and we find a way to play small that works. and you draft some play making support

gradyandrew wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:I think if we trade Randle, Thibs is going to. He loves Julius too much.

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I can't see any of these Twitter posts. Yet another joyous benefit of living behind The Great Firewall.

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In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

He must be really nicked up.
Jessica Clarice 🏳️‍⚧️ יִסְכָּה
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Hey @JCMacriNBA can you tweet out that stat you mentioned, about the teams rating when Randle's off the bench, please? Thanks.
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I cannot see them either, unless I use VPN
But here is one Knicks fan's gesture to another