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You know ZION healthy, <trade> cannot be worse than J.Randle here right now:
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DJMUSIC
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3/23/2022  8:45 AM
respect J Randle efforts to fit in NY when he came. However he's soured on NY
and He's going someplace, sadly BUT His butt needs to GO!

Zion? if true he wants to be here (I dreaming correct? lol ) Well LET IT HAPPEN!

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3/23/2022  9:11 AM
And you know Zion and Healthy rarely appear in the same sentence, correct? So we want Zion here so we can see how many different varieties of NYC fried foods he can digest?

And the Pels want to do this trade because...they want someone who's possibly going to lead the league in fines?

This is one mirror test that fails on both sides.

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3/23/2022  9:38 AM
The Pelicans realize that Zion is not all in. While he would be the first rookie to do it, Zion might refuse the extension. If that happens, we have a shot to get him. Randle is a poor man's Zion. I think a trade of Randle, Quickley, and a couple of 1st round picks should get that deal done, but that is a lot to give up for a player that has only shown that he cannot stay healthy. It is a risky move, but I think it is a move the team should explore. This current team is going nowhere and a healthy Zion takes this team to another level.
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3/23/2022  11:09 AM
Knicks fans and media would be very supportive and forgiving as Zion tried to get healthy and find his way. For about a week.
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3/23/2022  12:31 PM
Package:
Julius Randle, IQ, Grimes, this years and next years first, Dallas first. That’s what it would likely take to get the conversation moving.
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3/23/2022  3:47 PM
MS wrote:Package:
Julius Randle, IQ, Grimes, this years and next years first, Dallas first. That’s what it would likely take to get the conversation moving.

Not for an always injured player.

Randle, Kemba, IQ and maybe a pick would be my limit.

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3/23/2022  3:53 PM
TheGame wrote:The Pelicans realize that Zion is not all in. While he would be the first rookie to do it, Zion might refuse the extension. If that happens, we have a shot to get him. Randle is a poor man's Zion. I think a trade of Randle, Quickley, and a couple of 1st round picks should get that deal done, but that is a lot to give up for a player that has only shown that he cannot stay healthy. It is a risky move, but I think it is a move the team should explore. This current team is going nowhere and a healthy Zion takes this team to another level.

Yes, Zion was putting up historic numbers when he played. The team's ceiling jumps up tremendously if there's a swap. Point Zion is a thing and it worked for the NOP. I definitely trust him with the ball more than Randle. No more stupid contested midrange shots. Zion's game just isn't built for it. I know a trade is unlikely, but the franchise needs to jump on it if it becomes available.
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3/23/2022  3:55 PM
Zion is a trap we need to avoid.

Looks great on paper, and hey, he's BFFs with our own growing star! But we'd be locked into $30-40M to have him play 15 games a year and keep us pondering what if? Dude's 300lbs, history of knee and foot problems, with a game based entirely on athleticism.

I don't expect him to have a long career. I'll keep IQ.

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3/23/2022  9:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2022  9:24 PM
Caseloads wrote:
MS wrote:Package:
Julius Randle, IQ, Grimes, this years and next years first, Dallas first. That’s what it would likely take to get the conversation moving.

Not for an always injured player.

Randle, Kemba, IQ and maybe a pick would be my limit.

It starts with Randle and this years pick for Zion and Nance. We would likely need to add IQ or Grimes plus at least 2 additional firsts.

The only way Randle is dealt this summer is in a Zion trade. Otherwise Knicks will add the best PG they can and run it back.

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3/24/2022  11:19 AM
TheGame wrote: Randle is a poor man's Zion.

Randle actually plays games for the poor man though.

Zion is trending towards being a really rich man's Sam Bowie.

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3/24/2022  11:43 AM
There is no evidence that says Zion wants to be knick. Nothing. All we got is he is a bit odd and not all in verbally and stupid about his media quotes. That might be telling, or not.
Maybe he wants to play in LA? Or Miami? Maybe they don’t want him.
Dukies? I have read the “brotherhood” thing was cool, but does that mean a life long thing to play with them as a pro? Maybe RJ is cool with having his team and don’t want the fat guy in and out? Reddish still has yet to earn his wage and be secure. His carreer is kind of important than being with some buds he spend less than one year with.

IM not ruling it out. I don’t know what Nola wants. They have a lot of picks. They have yoot. Doing a one for three plus picks? Maybe a three way gives them a better player than Randle to impliment? how do you sell that to the fan base?
Is Nola really long for its team or do they bolt to Seattle or Vegas in a few years? The lease expires in 2024.
The move there by George Shinn was a short term cash move by a derelict owner at that time. It was a bad move by the NBA. Perhaps fueled by sympathy after Katrina.
Gayle Benson might mean well and it may hurt them as they own the Saints, but Nola as a hoop town is not the same as seattle’s demographic or what could be in Vegas.

Zion is a curiosity and a draw. You resign him and promise to move him down the road if no moves are made. Win-win.
If you think he is a phat Phuck and injury prone you trade him sooner than later. If thats the case why do we want him?
His leverage is he comes back this seasons, makes a splash in playoffs. Then get to 260lbs and demonstrates a vegan maturity and commitment to his craft, then tells NOLA he out and he is willing to accept the risk of walking. Thats his leverage but he has to create it.

I don’t mind paying up for him but I want to know what Im buying. If not its a different kind of risk that comes with a different type of price.

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3/24/2022  11:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/24/2022  11:46 AM
If you pay close attention to the court Zion is still not healthy. They are playing on a soft rehab court used to lessen the load of jumping and landing. Look when he jumps and lands you can see the floor compressing under his feet.

I am for trading for Zion. We have had a talent problem for a long time. Zion is elite level talent and like Joel he might get his health fixed after 2 years. Plus with RJ and Cam already here Zion seems like the perfect fit.

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3/24/2022  11:55 AM
Clean wrote:If you pay close attention to the court Zion is still not healthy. They are playing on a soft rehab court used to lessen the load of jumping and landing. Look when he jumps and lands you can see the floor compressing under his feet.

I am for trading for Zion. We have had a talent problem for a long time. Zion is elite level talent and like Joel he might get his health fixed after 2 years. Plus with RJ and Cam already here Zion seems like the perfect fit.


Good catch. Looks like a wood floor but as you said its a composite to ease. He could be healthy and thats just good sense for him to use that floor. That he is doing that might mean he is getting closer? Other than familiarity how is RJ and cam a good fit on the court?

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3/24/2022  12:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/24/2022  12:08 PM
Only way we should trade for Zion would be in a straight salary dump for Randle with no other assets
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3/24/2022  3:04 PM
Philc1 wrote:Only way we should trade for Zion would be in a straight salary dump for Randle with no other assets

I bet this post ages poorly.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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3/24/2022  7:10 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Only way we should trade for Zion would be in a straight salary dump for Randle with no other assets

I bet this post ages poorly.

Yeah I’m sure Zion will look great all 10 games he plays for New Orleans next year

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3/25/2022  12:34 AM
I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.
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3/25/2022  7:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2022  7:22 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.

Zion good enough that you take a chance on him even with his injury history. We never have a chance to get elite players so you have to jump on that no questions asked. He is also unselfish and efficient. How could you say no?

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3/25/2022  8:22 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I would trade for Zion today, tomorrow and yesterday. We’ll still need a PG though. In this case though, having a PG with Zion would help, as opposed to adding a PG with Randle.

Adding a PG would help with Randle too. He’s was more efficient with Payton and rose last year. This year he had neither of them.

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3/25/2022  8:31 AM
I would love to trade for Zion. I would like to think we can make a package that doesn't cripple us, but gives NOLA a great return on a talent that may or may not want to be there, and may or may not ever be healthy.
You know ZION healthy, <trade> cannot be worse than J.Randle here right now:

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