We're running out of time.

Only 23 games left.

▪︎ But yet we're now 25-34 (9 games below .500) and also a full 3.5 games back of Atlanta for the 10th seed?

We're the 9th worst team in the league right now and only 5.5 games ahead of the Pacers for the 5th worst record in the NBA (hopefully the ping pong balls show us love, this time).

I hope we get red hot during these final 23 games in order to catch the 10th seed

But looking @ our schedule it looks brutal man. It looks impossible guys.

Vs. Heat. •
Vs. 76ers. •
@ Philadelphia. •
@ Phoenix. •
@ Clippers.
@ Sacramento.
@ Dallas. •
@ Memphis. •
@ Brooklyn. •
Vs. Trailblazers.
Vs. Wizards.
Vs. Jazz.•
Vs. Hawks.
@ Charlotte.
@ Miami. •
@ Detroit.
Vs. Bulls. •
Vs. Hornets.
Vs. Cavaliers. •
@ Orlando.
Vs. Nets. •
@ Washington.
Vs. Raptors. •

12 @ Away games.
11 vs. Home games.

• 13 games against above. 500 teams.
10 games against below .500 teams.

NY Knicks = 25-34 (22nd).
1.5 ahead of New Orleans (23rd).
2.0 ahead of San Antonio (24th).
3.5 ahead of Sacramento (25th).
5.5 ahead of Indiana (26th).
6.5 ahead of OKC (27th).
8.5 ahead of Houston (28th).
11.5 ahead of Detroit (29th).
12.5 ahead of Orlando (30th).

SMH.

That 7 game road trip is BRUTAL. We could go 0 for.

Home vs trailblazers
At Detroit
At Orlando

Hopefully Rose & RJ help out.

SergioNYK wrote:The last 6 games of the season are going to ruin our tank.

Have you seen the last 3 games played? Brooklyn, OKC, Portland GLeague teams

NYKMentality wrote:I think it's safe to say I was a clueless basketball idiot for thinking we could win 60 games ala our 1992-1993 NY Knicks. Sorry. I was just fired up and super excited heading into 2021-2022.

We're running out of time.

Only 23 games left.

▪︎ But yet we're now 25-34 (9 games below .500) and also a full 3.5 games back of Atlanta for the 10th seed?

We're the 9th worst team in the league right now and only 5.5 games ahead of the Pacers for the 5th worst record in the NBA (hopefully the ping pong balls show us love, this time).

I hope we get red hot during these final 23 games in order to catch the 10th seed

But looking @ our schedule it looks brutal man. It looks impossible guys.

Vs. Heat. •
Vs. 76ers. •
@ Philadelphia. •
@ Phoenix. •
@ Clippers.
@ Sacramento.
@ Dallas. •
@ Memphis. •
@ Brooklyn. •
Vs. Trailblazers.
Vs. Wizards.
Vs. Jazz.•
Vs. Hawks.
@ Charlotte.
@ Miami. •
@ Detroit.
Vs. Bulls. •
Vs. Hornets.
Vs. Cavaliers. •
@ Orlando.
Vs. Nets. •
@ Washington.
Vs. Raptors. •

12 @ Away games.
11 vs. Home games.

• 13 games against above. 500 teams.
10 games against below .500 teams.

NY Knicks = 25-34 (22nd).
1.5 ahead of New Orleans (23rd).
2.0 ahead of San Antonio (24th).
3.5 ahead of Sacramento (25th).
5.5 ahead of Indiana (26th).
6.5 ahead of OKC (27th).
8.5 ahead of Houston (28th).
11.5 ahead of Detroit (29th).
12.5 ahead of Orlando (30th).

SMH.

I call Martin to ban you for trolling yourself!! LOL

TheGame wrote:If McBride does not start getting 15 minutes the rest of the way, Thibbs should be fired.

I have a very hard time arguing against this statement.

The one reason I can come up with is trying to build up some value so we can move vet players in the off season?

So better to play Burkes and try to get good value for him in the off season.

But I see the opposite of this is more true- playing these guys exposes too much downside to their games.

Better still- keep McBride’s value up so he can be a trade asset. Show a flash and he could still tease out upside- play him more, expose him and teams see he was a late pick for a reason.

I don’t think those are good reasons not to.

fishmike wrote:

TheGame wrote:If McBride does not start getting 15 minutes the rest of the way, Thibbs should be fired.

I would like to see McBride, IQ, Grimes and Obi all get 30 minutes a game.

That does NOT take into account Thib's job which is to win games and manage the players. Yes.. he can tell Kemba/Burks/Randle/Rose to sit and chill while he gives the kids some burn. It should be fine... they are only grown men with their own careers and lives to manage... they should take it well.

I get the "we need changes" chatter... but most of these points ignore the fact this is the NBA and these are humans.

Imagine the team you're a part of at work is struggling and your boss comes to you and says they are giving 30% of the your work to lesser paid new hires to see if they can do better. Now this will impact your output and potentially future earnings, but I expect you would all take it well and say "sure! Im a pro and this makes total sense."

Right? Its just that easy right? You all would have great attitudes on a day to day basis, help the new guys, heck... maybe even buy them lunch.

I mean the "play kids or fire Thibs" crowd is cute but there is some willful denial in terms of reality.

If you're main job is to win games and your running 3-13 in your last 16 games with 23 to go - mostly against superior opponents, and 3.5 games out of the play-in tourney, I would imagine you have some soul searching to do with decisions/changes to potentially make. If its a roster issue with little hope - then I would imagine your job is to work with the organization to identify options which might enable a future build. If its a performance, effort or roles issue - they your job as HC would be to make tough roster decisions while managing the guys who are impacted.

Thibs has already shown he can sit vets in what he feels is the best interest of the team......he told Kemba to sit and chill for 10 games this season and also old Austin Rivers to sit and chill for basically 21 games last season before they jettisoned him off.

I get your analogy on our own jobs and the human factors. But I tend to think of professional sports as if it was more of a high pressure sales organization where the atmosphere is more dog eat dog - especially if the organization is not hitting it's sales targets.

fishmike wrote:

TheGame wrote:If McBride does not start getting 15 minutes the rest of the way, Thibbs should be fired.

I would like to see McBride, IQ, Grimes and Obi all get 30 minutes a game.

That does NOT take into account Thib's job which is to win games and manage the players. Yes.. he can tell Kemba/Burks/Randle/Rose to sit and chill while he gives the kids some burn. It should be fine... they are only grown men with their own careers and lives to manage... they should take it well.

I get the "we need changes" chatter... but most of these points ignore the fact this is the NBA and these are humans.

Imagine the team you're a part of at work is struggling and your boss comes to you and says they are giving 30% of the your work to lesser paid new hires to see if they can do better. Now this will impact your output and potentially future earnings, but I expect you would all take it well and say "sure! Im a pro and this makes total sense."

Right? Its just that easy right? You all would have great attitudes on a day to day basis, help the new guys, heck... maybe even buy them lunch.

I mean the "play kids or fire Thibs" crowd is cute but there is some willful denial in terms of reality.

It really bothers me when fans complain that Thibs doesn't play young players. WTF are RJ, Mitch, Grimes and IQ!? It's so easy for them to say oh bench Kemba and Burks. And who the heck is going to play backup PG and playmaker? I know everyone likes the shiney new toy in Reddish but he cannot play that role either. And don't you think Thibs sees Deuce in practice and knows more than we do? This is a second round pick and the G-League is not the NBA. Maybe the kid is not ready! Thibs is not stupid. He as well as anybody knows we need a PG desperately. Don't you think he'd play Deuce if he was good enough? The Obi **** is also annoying. Look, I'd also like for Obi to play 20 minutes per game because he was a lottery pick but he hasn't exactly set the basketball world on fire in the minutes he has gotten. Aside from some nice dunks and hustle plays, what else does he do?! Not to mention he is the worst threepoint shooter per volume in the entire league too! And what happened when Obi did get the start and heavy minutes in those games Randle missed because of covid? Obi **** the bed!

I think some fans will never ever be happy with the coach or lineups. They want a rotation that consists of all kids. It's beyond annoying considering not even the hardcore tanking teams do this! All teams play vets in their rotation! It just sucks that our vets this year have underachieved.

We don't have much on the team but we have a damn good coach. Some of you are pointing the finger and blaming the wrong person.

fishmike wrote:

TheGame wrote:If McBride does not start getting 15 minutes the rest of the way, Thibbs should be fired.

I would like to see McBride, IQ, Grimes and Obi all get 30 minutes a game.

That does NOT take into account Thib's job which is to win games and manage the players. Yes.. he can tell Kemba/Burks/Randle/Rose to sit and chill while he gives the kids some burn. It should be fine... they are only grown men with their own careers and lives to manage... they should take it well.

I get the "we need changes" chatter... but most of these points ignore the fact this is the NBA and these are humans.

Imagine the team you're a part of at work is struggling and your boss comes to you and says they are giving 30% of the your work to lesser paid new hires to see if they can do better. Now this will impact your output and potentially future earnings, but I expect you would all take it well and say "sure! Im a pro and this makes total sense."

Right? Its just that easy right? You all would have great attitudes on a day to day basis, help the new guys, heck... maybe even buy them lunch.

I mean the "play kids or fire Thibs" crowd is cute but there is some willful denial in terms of reality.

Get what you are saying. Valid points. Was heavily dug in on this side as well. But starting to think that Deuce deserved a chance given the need in the second unit. Maybe I am just skewed by the success Grimes has had when given the chance. The one thing I do have to say, which Chandler brought up on another thread, is that the unit Thibs is putting out there has at least been capable of getting 20+ leads on teams. The question is what is causing them to lose those games? The only thing I see is the difference in pace and the fact Kemba has not played much in those collapses.
Not saying that having Kemba out of the lineup is the cause just that that has been the case.

fishmike wrote:

TheGame wrote:If McBride does not start getting 15 minutes the rest of the way, Thibbs should be fired.

I would like to see McBride, IQ, Grimes and Obi all get 30 minutes a game.

That does NOT take into account Thib's job which is to win games and manage the players. Yes.. he can tell Kemba/Burks/Randle/Rose to sit and chill while he gives the kids some burn. It should be fine... they are only grown men with their own careers and lives to manage... they should take it well.

I get the "we need changes" chatter... but most of these points ignore the fact this is the NBA and these are humans.

Imagine the team you're a part of at work is struggling and your boss comes to you and says they are giving 30% of the your work to lesser paid new hires to see if they can do better. Now this will impact your output and potentially future earnings, but I expect you would all take it well and say "sure! Im a pro and this makes total sense."

Right? Its just that easy right? You all would have great attitudes on a day to day basis, help the new guys, heck... maybe even buy them lunch.

I mean the "play kids or fire Thibs" crowd is cute but there is some willful denial in terms of reality.

I disagree. Teams shut vets down and play the young guys in the NBA all the time. That is the classic way to tank in the league. I agree the vets may not be 100% happy but I don’t think there is going to be a revolt and the fact of the matter is we probably need to trade 2-3 of our vets this offseason anyway. The main priority for this summer is finding a pg that is good enough to keep Rose on the bench. I don’t know if Duece is that guy, but I know Duece is lighting it up in the G league. It only makes sense to play him 15-20 minutes over the last 20 games to see if he can play at a high level in the NBA. Because Thibbs played Quickley, we now have a better idea of what Quickley can and cannot do. I think the FO could use a better understanding of where Duece is at. Plus, we always push to win games at the end of the year and screw up our draft position. Embrace the tank, play Duece, and let’s focus on how to retool for next season.

martin wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:The last 6 games of the season are going to ruin our tank.

Have you seen the last 3 games played? Brooklyn, OKC, Portland GLeague teams

McBride and Rose will be playing pg while IQ and Burks return to SG so we will win a bunch of meaningless games last month of the season

Philc1 wrote:He's a jets fan. The Knicks are in maybe a 10-16x better situation than his football team even IF they miss the playoffs this season. We are in meltdown mode over the Knicks being 8 games under .500. The jets are 6-28 under Joe Douglas

I'm a Jets fan and you're not?

So what are you, just a troll?

Because I seem to remember you posting on a Jets forum called JN and for many of years too.

So you weren't an NY Jets fan? You were just spending years trolling a longtime losing fan base?

Nice to know Phil.

Now I'm begging to think you're nothing more than an NY Knicks troll too and not even a Knicks fan. What are you? A N.E Patriots fan and Boston Celtics fan too?

Because if you spent many of your own years trolling a Jets fan base while acting and pretending to be a "Jets fan"?

Then what's stopping you doing the same here on UK to innocent Knicks fans while acting and pretending to also be a "Knicks fan"?

Because you sure enough did it to JETS FANS. And for many of years too.

Now I don't know what you're capable of Mr. 1 and only (online) "Philc1".