ESOMKnicks wrote:Useless trade. SG/SF is the one position where the Knicks have a lot of options: RJ, Fournier, Grimes, IQ will also get minutes at SG. At least we did not give up a lot, but hard to see where Cam fits into the rotation, whereas Knox just sat at the end of the bench. Probably the real reason was to make RJ happy ahead of re-signing him and give Knox a fresh start ahead of his contract year.

Same arguments made that the Derrick Rose trade would block IQ, etc.

Very short sighted IMHO

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Cam's a very good shooter but he's streaky. He can put the ball on the floor and get to the paint, but I thought he settles for 3's way too much. The talent and skill is there for him to be a very good player. He has great size and a shooters touch. I am excited to see if he can untap his full potential here.

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foosballnick wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is cam reddish much better than knox?

Both lower lottery picks both same size both stats close

It’s a wait and see. I’d rather of held out the 1 for a pg

Cam plays defense and can guard 3 positions. He's also had breakout games on offense and has the ability to get to the rim. Knox has only shown proficiency as a spot up 3 point shooter so far. predicting that NY fans are gonna love what Cam brings.

I was wondering about Cam's defense. A quick glance at their D stats doesn't show a whole hell of alot of difference between them. Hopefully Thibs gets more out of Cam than he could out of Knox. He's certainly got more offensive chops.

Wow, Mitch is all that's left from the prior FO regime...

Relatively small sample size but just the eye test for me. In what I've watched from both - their motors are completely different.

Uptown wrote:I reside in the A and have seen Cam quite a bit, except this year since I cut the cord. Cam is very talented, in fact there was some debate that he was just as skilled as RJ or at least had a bigger upside. The knock on Cam coming out of Duke was that he has a low motor which is a red flag. I definitely saw the low energy and what appeared dot be disinterest from him at times, but I can say that his intensity picked up once Nate took over as the coach.

Cam's a very good shooter but he's streaky. He can put the ball on the floor and get to the paint, but I thought he settles for 3's way too much. The talent and skill is there for him to be a very good player. He has great size and a shooters touch. I am excited to see if he can untap his full potential here.

Watch a lot of the NBA. Agree with this. May be One person's junk for another's perceived treasure. Especially with fans. They are both 22. Both have struggled. And both have potential. Hopefully a change of scenery for both will do some good. Do not see this as a "fleecing" though considering we gave up a first round pick to swap the two and received a second in return. How the trade is judged, will depend on Cam coming in and considerably outperforms Knox's stint here. Which may not be very hard. That and on what the Hawks get with that 1at round pick. However, I do think and hope that the familiarity Cam has with RJ will help him turn the corner. If anything, Knox needed to be dealt to avoid getting nothing in return for him.

MS wrote:This is obviously setting up another trade.

Obi is going to be moved shortly. He’s playing 10 minutes a night and Thibs doesn’t like him.

IQ, Obi, two firsts probably to Sac for Fox or some combination.

Fox and Randle are a terrible pairing. He's 100% available.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Useless trade. SG/SF is the one position where the Knicks have a lot of options: RJ, Fournier, Grimes, IQ will also get minutes at SG. At least we did not give up a lot, but hard to see where Cam fits into the rotation, whereas Knox just sat at the end of the bench. Probably the real reason was to make RJ happy ahead of re-signing him and give Knox a fresh start ahead of his contract year.

Same arguments made that the Derrick Rose trade would block IQ, etc.

Very short sighted IMHO

Not comparable. We did not have Elf freshly signed to an $80 million contract back then like we do with Evan now. And IQ was not a #3 pick the first round.

I like the trade. Cam is skilled and gives us an Ariza kind of long athletic wing. His age and physical tools make him a great gamble. I am also sure adding Cam isnt going to be "the move"

We know Sac has guards available.

fishmike wrote:

MS wrote:This is obviously setting up another trade.

Obi is going to be moved shortly. He’s playing 10 minutes a night and Thibs doesn’t like him.

IQ, Obi, two firsts probably to Sac for Fox or some combination.

I think you are reading the tea leaves pretty well. I dont think they trade IQ in any trade. I think there's a pretty big bromance there with IQ and Thibs. Also think Thibs like Obi just fine if he's laying bricks he's gonna sit. That being said there are gonna be moves coming.

Fox and Randle are a terrible pairing. He's 100% available.

Fournier seems to be the next most likely to be moved, doesn't he? Otherwise we have a bit of a glut at the SG/SF. Maybe Fournier for Miles Turner?

Maybe Obi is next though and that's why he's looked so deflated the last 3 games?

One thing I'm also puzzled by- if we were so against adding salary beyond next season (preferring 2 year deals last offseason), how will Cam Reddish wanting a big pay day affect that plan, or has that plan changed? Or do we just not extend him and RJ next season (I'd rather not, I don't get this new trend for extending players before you need to)

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Uptown wrote:I reside in the A and have seen Cam quite a bit, except this year since I cut the cord. Cam is very talented, in fact there was some debate that he was just as skilled as RJ or at least had a bigger upside. The knock on Cam coming out of Duke was that he has a low motor which is a red flag. I definitely saw the low energy and what appeared dot be disinterest from him at times, but I can say that his intensity picked up once Nate took over as the coach.

Cam's a very good shooter but he's streaky. He can put the ball on the floor and get to the paint, but I thought he settles for 3's way too much. The talent and skill is there for him to be a very good player. He has great size and a shooters touch. I am excited to see if he can untap his full potential here.

Watch a lot of the NBA. Agree with this. May be One person's junk for another's perceived treasure. Especially with fans. They are both 22. Both have struggled. And both have potential. Hopefully a change of scenery for both will do some good. Do not see this as a "fleecing" though considering we gave up a first round pick to swap the two and received a second in return. How the trade is judged, will depend on Cam coming in and considerably outperforms Knox's stint here. Which may not be very hard. That and on what the Hawks get with that 1at round pick. However, I do think and hope that the familiarity Cam has with RJ will help him turn the corner. If anything, Knox needed to be dealt to avoid getting nothing in return for him.

Thats a big part of this trade. Instead of losing our former 9th pick for nothing, they got a better version of Knox in a former 10th pick in the draft with a chance to get a close look at for 2 more years on a decent salary. Like I said earlier, he plays in spurts on both sides of the ball and whenever a player is labeled as having a low motor, that is a major red-flag for me. He did appear to show more intensity under coach Nate, but again, it was consistent. Like you said, hopefully a change of scenery will help him. Hopefully, playing in Thibs system will help him realize his potential because he is very skilled and has great size on the wing, something we desperately need.