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houston20
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1/1/2022  12:43 AM
All these young guys better produce wins without julius randle during next 4 or 5 games if they don't win games its going be return veteran players. Thibs is about winning games he not going to do this tanking crap like some you guys want and actually these young guys like rj, mitch,obi, quickley,knox, mcbride,grimes, and sims want to go to playoffs. These young player better get least 2 wins out these next 5 games if these go winless without julius then problem isn't going be him the narritve is going julius is taking average players to the playoffs. So obi, mitch, grimes, rj , quickley, mcbride, and knox you better produce couple of wins or they will return to the veteran players.
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1/1/2022  12:52 AM
houston20 wrote:All these young guys better produce wins without julius randle during next 4 or 5 games if they don't win games its going be return veteran players. Thibs is about winning games he not going to do this tanking crap like some you guys want and actually these young guys like rj, mitch,obi, quickley,knox, mcbride,grimes, and sims want to go to playoffs. These young player better get least 2 wins out these next 5 games if these go winless without julius then problem isn't going be him the narritve is going julius is taking average players to the playoffs. So obi, mitch, grimes, rj , quickley, mcbride, and knox you better produce couple of wins or they will return to the veteran players.

Thankfully he'll only miss 2 more games (@ Raptors and vs. Pacers).

Covid protocol is now only 6 days (instead of 10).

We'll have him back for our home/away (back to back games) against Boston.

And hopefully we're @ .500 for his return (and not 4 games below .500).
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1/1/2022  12:58 AM
The knicks aren't going to rush julius to come back has pass lot of phyiscal test after covid protocoll so its probably going be at least a week and come back vs the spurs january 10. Covid is series thing so the knicks have take this process easy with julius and not rush him back. If am julius and saw all this disrespect from fans on social media i am not coming back early i going to take my sweet time.
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1/1/2022  2:53 AM
houston20 wrote:The knicks aren't going to rush julius to come back has pass lot of phyiscal test after covid protocoll so its probably going be at least a week and come back vs the spurs january 10. Covid is series thing so the knicks have take this process easy with julius and not rush him back. If am julius and saw all this disrespect from fans on social media i am not coming back early i going to take my sweet time.

If your vaccinated your not going to get many symptoms if any at all.

But that's what some of you want see, a bunch of kids running up and down shooting bricks, with no offensive structure.

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1/1/2022  8:29 AM
The lack of offensive structure is Thibs. Our offense is dribble in place and then ISO before the 24 runs out. We do not play to the strengths of players and Thibs can’t adjust. He calls timeouts but there is nothing different in the scheme. Everyone trashed our players after every game, but ultimately falls on the coach
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1/1/2022  8:38 AM
We trash Julius, then Obi plays and after one game he is garbage. RJ, EF (but he really sucks), Mitch everyone gets a turn. The fact is Thibs is a stubborn man who has a roster he can’t figure out and COVID protocols hasn’t helped. We need a younger coach who can develop young talent, can run an offense and can mix up his rotation to get the most out of players. He is a bench coach, a defensive coordinator, he got lucky last year to get a 4 seed.
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1/1/2022  12:58 PM
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houston20 wrote:The knicks aren't going to rush julius to come back has pass lot of phyiscal test after covid protocoll so its probably going be at least a week and come back vs the spurs january 10. Covid is series thing so the knicks have take this process easy with julius and not rush him back. If am julius and saw all this disrespect from fans on social media i am not coming back early i going to take my sweet time.

If your vaccinated your not going to get many symptoms if any at all.

But that's what some of you want see, a bunch of kids running up and down shooting bricks, with no offensive structure.

I don' think your understanding of when you get COVID is even near correct. Obi had let us know that he was vaxx'ed and (I think) boosted. He also told us he was FLOORED and in bed for several days. Some guys are able to snap right back into it, some guys need several days to get their bodies in shape.

COVID some times kills you. COVID some times gives you bed ridden symptoms for days or weeks. COVID some times is long running and you cannot function at the level you are used to. COVID some times is asymptomatic. COVID some times is like a light flu or cold.

Vaccination, boosted, yada yada. No 2 are exactly the same.

It seems like your bubble understanding of COVID needs to be widened.

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1/2/2022  10:26 PM
Like i said before these better produce wins if not return of veteran players and young guys know there not better without the veteran players. James dolan isn't going to let this product of young players play the whole entire season like some people want that's not going to happen. James dolan wants the garden to be open on apirl-16-or 17 when the nba playoffs doesn't care if the knicks lose around 1.
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1/3/2022  1:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/3/2022  1:37 AM
houston20 wrote:The knicks aren't going to rush julius to come back has pass lot of phyiscal test after covid protocoll so its probably going be at least a week and come back vs the spurs january 10. Covid is series thing so the knicks have take this process easy with julius and not rush him back. If am julius and saw all this disrespect from fans on social media i am not coming back early i going to take my sweet time.

I dont think fans have been disrespectful of Randle. I think some fans were disappointed that his play from last season regressed. Its understandable--when he was playing well everyone was behind him. He set his own standard. The players coaches media have to understand that Knicks fans have endured a long long drought--and thats just the honesty of it. In the last 22 years there have only been a few shining moments and even those were somewhat faint whimpers.

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1/3/2022  2:43 AM
The thing is that, even as inconsistent as he was playing, Randle has gravity, meaning that he draws other teams defensive coverage and regularly drew double teams. This took immense pressure off of other players on our team and opened up the floor. We all believe Randle can and should be more efficient and lower his turnovers and dumb plays. However, after watching two games, it seems clear the team misses the attention he draws and his ability to create his own shot. I still think Obi can develop into that type of player, but it is not something he is ready to do right now, and it will probably still take a couple more years for him to develop into that level of player.
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1/3/2022  6:40 AM
BMart wrote:The lack of offensive structure is Thibs. Our offense is dribble in place and then ISO before the 24 runs out. We do not play to the strengths of players and Thibs can’t adjust. He calls timeouts but there is nothing different in the scheme. Everyone trashed our players after every game, but ultimately falls on the coach


But it has been the same offensive crap for at least 25 years under a multitude of coaches. Maybe with minor breaks for Linsanity or Kiddsanity. Is it the Garden? Is it Dolan? Is it Westchester? Why does every player or coach, even with a great past successful track record, become an incompetent bumbling fool, if not a downright lunatic, when he joins the Knick organization?
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1/3/2022  9:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/3/2022  9:18 AM
BMart wrote:The lack of offensive structure is Thibs. Our offense is dribble in place and then ISO before the 24 runs out. We do not play to the strengths of players and Thibs can’t adjust. He calls timeouts but there is nothing different in the scheme. Everyone trashed our players after every game, but ultimately falls on the coach

I love when guys think an offensive structure can be implemented overnight. This shows the disconnect with how things really work. For those that understand the complexity, TIMING and familiarity needed to make an offense work, calling for rookies/sophomore to start is hilarious. Thibs called it the "back up QB" mentality. Everyone thinks the backup QB is always better and they can just come in and kill it. That is until the backup starts and ****s the bed. They then blame it on the offensive scheme. Lmao Have always said it, fans prefer some fantasy over reality. Coaches KNOW what these kids can do. Fans just see spurts of success and think that it can be translated to a large sample size. They also blame their better players for not being perfect. I trust in Thibs. He knows which ones gives us the best chance to win. Having our BEST player out there definitely does that. And that is Randle. Fans can keep posting their dreams.

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HofstraBBall wrote:
BMart wrote:The lack of offensive structure is Thibs. Our offense is dribble in place and then ISO before the 24 runs out. We do not play to the strengths of players and Thibs can’t adjust. He calls timeouts but there is nothing different in the scheme. Everyone trashed our players after every game, but ultimately falls on the coach

I love when guys think an offensive structure can be implemented overnight. This shows the disconnect with how things really work. For those that understand the complexity, TIMING and familiarity needed to make an offense work, calling for rookies/sophomore to start is hilarious. Thibs called it the "back up QB" mentality. Everyone thinks the backup QB is always better and they can just come in and kill it. That is until the backup starts and ****s the bed. They then blame it on the offensive scheme. Lmao Have always said it, fans prefer some fantasy over reality. Coaches KNOW what these kids can do. Fans just see spurts of success and think that it can be translated to a large sample size. They also blame their better players for not being perfect. I trust in Thibs. He knows which ones gives us the best chance to win. Having our BEST player out there definitely does that. And that is Randle. Fans can keep posting their dreams.

even better is when you are working with bottom of the barrel NBA play makers. Thibs offense was great in Chi. Also Minn improved in almost every offensive category when Thibs took over that team. Finally the Knicks... started w/ Elfrid Payton, Dennis Smith Jr and Frank. Then we got him Rose and Kemba... so yeah man, its a real head scratcher when the roster is iso heavy scorers who get their own shots when the offense doesnt flow it MUST BE THE COACH! Right now my favorite poster is googling "Where is Mike Miller"
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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1/3/2022  10:34 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BMart wrote:The lack of offensive structure is Thibs. Our offense is dribble in place and then ISO before the 24 runs out. We do not play to the strengths of players and Thibs can’t adjust. He calls timeouts but there is nothing different in the scheme. Everyone trashed our players after every game, but ultimately falls on the coach

I love when guys think an offensive structure can be implemented overnight. This shows the disconnect with how things really work. For those that understand the complexity, TIMING and familiarity needed to make an offense work, calling for rookies/sophomore to start is hilarious. Thibs called it the "back up QB" mentality. Everyone thinks the backup QB is always better and they can just come in and kill it. That is until the backup starts and ****s the bed. They then blame it on the offensive scheme. Lmao Have always said it, fans prefer some fantasy over reality. Coaches KNOW what these kids can do. Fans just see spurts of success and think that it can be translated to a large sample size. They also blame their better players for not being perfect. I trust in Thibs. He knows which ones gives us the best chance to win. Having our BEST player out there definitely does that. And that is Randle. Fans can keep posting their dreams.

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