BRIGGS wrote:Is a disastrous bust. How do we get out of it????

who's salary are you thinking about?

Randle
Fournier
Walker
Burks

I am there with thinking - wow, this is bad.

I still think Randle can perform like last year. I don't think that is homerism or naivety.

I think this is very common, the result of immense pressure to perform. There is no guarantee, but he might get past this. My hope is Thibs will help.

Fournier has shown flashes and is probably the worst contract we signed. Can he be traded? Probably- so it's not a completely awful contract like we have had in the past.

Walker is 2 years. I still have faith he can contribute.

Burks - totally seems worth it.

The big problem I see from today - Kevin Knox can shoot! We can't let him walk for nothing.

And Briggs - how do we get out of it?

well - realize we're not as bad as the Jets & Giants - who just gave up a long touchdown before the half.

We have our own draft pick - and this team has really done a good job of drafting. Maybe this is our David Robinson year, and next year, Randle has his moment of Zen, RJ hits the gym and we bust it out next year with young stud PG we nab in the draft?

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:It’s rough but there’s a long season to go and a good stretch of winnable games coming up. I think we still have a better record than this point last year right ?

we are 1 game better than last year.

Plus with more games remaining due to the normal schedule I assume ? It’s not ideal, but this team can go on a run. But at some point Randle and Fournier need to get their acts together.

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:It’s rough but there’s a long season to go and a good stretch of winnable games coming up. I think we still have a better record than this point last year right ?

we are 1 game better than last year.

Plus with more games remaining due to the normal schedule I assume ? It’s not ideal, but this team can go on a run. But at some point Randle and Fournier need to get their acts together.

I don’t think this team has a run in him, and that is getting ahead of us.

I just want to see energy, effort, grit and some smarts.

I would like to see the young guys, especially Kevin Knox. Is he going to turn into a serviceable player if he leaves here? Find out first.

Guys can certainly turn things around but haven't the Knicks seen Knox for 3+ years ongoing?

Swishfm3 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:It’s rough but there’s a long season to go and a good stretch of winnable games coming up. I think we still have a better record than this point last year right ?

we are 1 game better than last year.

Plus with more games remaining due to the normal schedule I assume ? It’s not ideal, but this team can go on a run. But at some point Randle and Fournier need to get their acts together.

I don’t think this team has a run in him, and that is getting ahead of us.

I just want to see energy, effort, grit and some smarts.

I would like to see the young guys, especially Kevin Knox. Is he going to turn into a serviceable player if he leaves here? Find out first.

Because he went 5/12 from beyond the arc today? lol...this is why I can't take some of you guys seriously

Yes. The question about Knox was one of motor. If he plays with IQ, Grimes- does he show enough that we can trade him? Do we want to keep him? Has his motor gotten better sitting under Thibs. Some players when faced by the stark reality of getting bounced find their personal Jesus. I read DSjr has contributed - again, short sample- but before we lose him for nothing, lets please find out if we can recoup his value.

We are married to a lot of Money for role players.

The more troubling aspect is this money is stuck for 2-3 years to players who have no chance of winning a chip.

BRIGGS wrote:Is a disastrous bust. How do we get out of it????

The 2022 NBA Draft.

A trade shouldn't be difficult.

We need a big that can stretch the floor, until that happens we're are avg.

At least a center with energy and will run the floor for easy buckets. Our centers are the last man down court every time..

You can't run PnR with them and they can't space the floor, and the fact that both have been on the bench at the same time, is so telling

BRIGGS wrote:Is a disastrous bust. How do we get out of it????

A replay of that good season we had then we traded for Bargs in the offseason based on what happened in the playoffs (thought we needed a stretch 4) and somehow lost the entirety of our team chemistry.

To be fair, as most of us saw at the time, there were not many options for good upgrades this past offseason- we could either bring back everyone at higher salary (no guarantee we wouldn't have slumped judging by how Randle and RJ regressed and Bullock absolutely stinks this year in Dallas).

Lonzo already had a deal with the Bulls (see tampering charges, plus he wanted to be a Bull for a long time)
Lowry already had a deal with the heat (plus think he'll age quickly after this season)
No way we would have been happy giving up a pick and paying the money DeRozan got
Pretty much everyone stayed home or got overpaid.

We dished out short contracts for future flexibility, which caps who you can get (understandably so).

We tried upgrading, it didn't work out, but we have our picks, we can move most players- regret that Randle extension though!

BRIGGS wrote:Is a disastrous bust. How do we get out of it????

Trade Randle’s contract for picks

Try to dump EF’s contract on OKC, unfortunately will cost us picks

Rose - forget it nobody wants that contract