Knixkik wrote:Knicks spent all this money adding Walker and Fournier this summer and really have nothing to show for it. For what they got at that price they could have just signed DeRozan and started Burks at PG from the jump and had a real difference maker. In retrospect, adding Walker and Fournier seems great on paper but clearly doesn’t fit with Thibs coaching style.

Walker is not even worth the hail mary used to sign him - hopeless acquisition.

Fournier, a paper superstar who adds zero value to winning. The end of the bench scrubs who don't distinguish the uniform. Why is whats-his-name still here?

Trades? I'd take Wanamaker at this point.

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Knicks spent all this money adding Walker and Fournier this summer and really have nothing to show for it. For what they got at that price they could have just signed DeRozan and started Burks at PG from the jump and had a real difference maker. In retrospect, adding Walker and Fournier seems great on paper but clearly doesn’t fit with Thibs coaching style. Leon Rose did great getting a team that fit Thibs last year and this summer with real money signed big name players who aren’t in sync with the coach. Changes will have to be made.

Fournier was always going to be a terrible signing. Can we please stop signing players from the Magic. They are somehow a worse franchise than the Knicks, but we continue to sign their castaways. I won't criticize the Walker move. For the money it was worth a shot. It didn't work out, but we only asked him to be an upgrade over Elf. It could of been a home run. Unfortunately, he is washed

No, he was not worth it. He was washed when he signed. It ain't about the money its about the unnecessary noise. Now he's like a sob story - poor guy is benched, boo hoo.

Lose him.

Jimbo5 wrote:I was really hoping the knicks gambled big in the offseason and did exactly what the Bulls did. I was hoping we signed both Lonzo and DeMar instead of kemba and evan. Nothing else we can do about it now

no, there is - we can blow it up, fire Thibs and hire Mike Miller!!!!

Kidding.

How did we look so good against the Spurs and then the next night, we look like a G League team that met for the first time?

Our offense definitely needs help. But so does our D.

Jimbo5 wrote:I was really hoping the knicks gambled big in the offseason and did exactly what the Bulls did. I was hoping we signed both Lonzo and DeMar instead of kemba and evan. Nothing else we can do about it now

Talk about missed opportunities. The Bulls did well.

What can explain the Lonzo disconnect? Did we save a pick? Or refuse to trade... who?

Fournier rather than Demar? Blame it on over-analytics.

And does anyone notice the similarity to Thibs' records in Minnesota? He's a sucker for his own profile.

This season could go sideways fast. This is still NY.

The honeymoon suite's booking is expiring.

fwk00 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:I was really hoping the knicks gambled big in the offseason and did exactly what the Bulls did. I was hoping we signed both Lonzo and DeMar instead of kemba and evan. Nothing else we can do about it now

no, there is - we can blow it up, fire Thibs and hire Mike Miller!!!!

Kidding.

How did we look so good against the Spurs and then the next night, we look like a G League team that met for the first time?

Our offense definitely needs help. But so does our D.

Thibs is a win-often and soon coach while Miller was a development coach. Pick your poison. No kidding.

Rose, Kemba, Randle,... and a handful of gym rats?... is winning what any time soon?

Either the Knicks bulk up on talent for Thibs or we wait for lightning to strike. we are more than a straw short on talent.

the bold part. unwatchable again. so...

i won;t watch

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:This team looks exactly like it did before MITCH got hurt,and we traded for Rose.

On a side note, DSJ is now the starting pg the Blazers..

Your right its the same damn team

Its also looking like Thibs 2nd yr in mini where his teams defense sank to the bottom of the league and he got fired.

fitzfarm wrote:It’s really a shame we can’t move the ball and get everyone involved… we have to take this game with a grain of salt … young team on back to back from Texas to Indy more then anything they looked spent… I’ve never heard of back to backs from so far away .

But we got problems, EF is talented but not one play was made to get him open. That’s on the coaching staff we have to get everyone involved not just Randal .

Just like we never ran plays for kemba but it’s not his fault it’s the coaching staff … you have to get your players involved we can’t expect positive results when a player isn’t involved for long stretches of the game .

Kemba is just a lost cause at this point. Not sure if it's the knees or if he's just not really Thibs-type material?

And what happened to RJ's supposed elite defensive mode? He's almost bottom barrel in the league.