HofstraBBall wrote:Sure, let's throw **** at the fan. I say we trade for Frank and give him a chance!!
This fan base is hilarious. One day it's that Burks needs to start. Kemba is the problem. Two-games later its let's give the guy with NO NBA experience a shot. smh

Yea, that was Thibs who said that. I don't want to speak for the OP but this thread seems to come from a place that if the team is going to stink we rather it stink because we are developing young talent rather than playing a bunch of expensive, low effort trash vets.

Thibs is officially on the hot seat. Right next to Randle. I believe the only person that can save us is Leon Rose. Our FO set us back in the off season. So they have to bring us forward during the season. Look at the lakers. They traded their defensive role players for Westbrook, melo and vets. Their defense went from top 5 to bottom 5. We can hate on ELF and Bullock. But collectively, we had a better defensive team. And Thibs needs a defensive team to flex his offensive muscle, which drives his offensive strategy. But when thibs needs to be creative on offense to make up for our lack of defense, thibs looks like an average coach, because he’s not an offensive coach. He needs defenders to help his offense. Otherwise we will look like this all season. Lose to bad teams, best some good teams. Or as of recently, lose to bad teams and lose to good teams. Randle is doing everything he can. I’m waiting on the rest of the team to step up. Has anybody seen RJ?

blkexec wrote:(Sorry for my long rant)
Thibs didnt need to make any changes to the starting unit in the first place, not yet at anyway. All thibs had to do was continue to yank Kemba early for Burks. And see how burks runs with the SL in a larger sample size than just 1 ATL game. Then u make a decision to start Burks or not and at what position. What he would’ve saw was Kemba and SG/SF Burks is not the answer at PG. Instead thibs damaged Kemba trade value slightly with this move. And the W column hasn’t changed since. So now what? This next move will tell us a lot about thibs thinking. Does he swap rose for burks? How long will he use Burks in the starting lineup? Will thibs make another (save my azz) move? removing Kemba from the entire rotation and to publicly announce that was not smart. Because u need Kemba and his trade value in case this Burks experiment doesn’t work. Now instead we stuck trying to trade someone we just reduce in value and lost our trading leverage. So now we get pennies on the dollar.

I'm sure the coaching staff considered the on/off with Kemba and already had data with Burks playing with the SL - Kemba barely finished games. We can assume that just the point of starting is not the hinge factor?

The SL WAS the problem, both offensively and defensively for both 1st and 3rd quarters in particular, so why wouldn't you adjust there?

blkexec wrote:Thibs is officially on the hot seat. Right next to Randle. I believe the only person that can save us is Leon Rose. Our FO set us back in the off season. So they have to bring us forward during the season. Look at the lakers. They traded their defensive role players for Westbrook, melo and vets. Their defense went from top 5 to bottom 5. We can hate on ELF and Bullock. But collectively, we had a better defensive team. And Thibs needs a defensive team to flex his offensive muscle, which drives his offensive strategy. But when thibs needs to be creative on offense to make up for our lack of defense, thibs looks like an average coach, because he’s not an offensive coach. He needs defenders to help his offense. Otherwise we will look like this all season. Lose to bad teams, best some good teams. Or as of recently, lose to bad teams and lose to good teams. Randle is doing everything he can. I’m waiting on the rest of the team to step up. Has anybody seen RJ?

I don't understand the concept of hot seat in this particular case. Does anyone really believe Thibs will be fired or anywhere close to it? You are only on hot seat if you are vastly under performing or something with what you are doing is clearly not working. The Knicks - and Thibs in particular - are not there. Maybe they are not meeting some expectations, but those are not set by the team in the context of what they are working with.

Not for nothing, but Randle and RJ should be on the hot seat, they are vastly under performing to the level that they set last year.