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timmyTtop
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11/11/2004  6:47 PM
i wish curry said this 2 weeks ago when they were planning on booting e-rob that way we can ship sweetney a 1st rounder and nazr for erob and curry. i think thats as fair as it gets. we dont really lose our future bc isiah has a great eye for talent and can get a great pick even at the 2nd round. we all know that, ex: ariza.
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11/11/2004  6:55 PM
dude... this is gonna become the bulls team soon. Itz gonna be red and black soon if we dont stop this crzy talk
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11/11/2004  6:56 PM
I want quality players on the Knicks. I don't give a **** which team they were on before.
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11/11/2004  6:57 PM
I'm always so hesitant about getting a guy like curry; who knows what it'll take to keep him in NY after this year if he is traded here... I'm not giving that guy a max contract...
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11/11/2004  7:14 PM
i would trade for him and i would do something like sweetney nazr and hardaway for davis curry adn paitkowski.


let me explain, #1 its very hard to find and get into position to claim a C with curry's potential AT HIS AGE. he has shown brilliant flashes, but i do not think he has trained 1-1 with a guy like aquire-like mS has for an extended period of time. he has had 30 point 13 reb 27 point 15 reb type games already, but the problem is

A. consistency
B. tenacity and hustle
c. conditioning
the guy is an athletic[i remember he had a 34 inch vertical leap coming into the league at that size]big big guy with tremendous potential to turn into a 25 pt 10 rebound 50% with 1.5-2.0 shot block C

if we can get him away from his home--being near your momma isnt a help and work on all his flaws over the next year, but 2005 we could have a 23 year old 6-11 perhaps 295 pd[from weight lifting] monster.

To me it's worth the gamble. yes giving away Sweetney stinks--i dont care about nazr, my goal is to find a guy who can propell us to a championship and no matter what anyone says eddie has that kind of potential. remember how bad MS was before he satrted to train with isiahs guys--give curry to isiah and let him work him over.

that would make our core

Ariza 6-8 195 19
Curry 6-11 290 22
Crawford 6-5 180 24
Marbury 6-1 200 27

i think that in the next two years we find an athletic PF another solid G and tough role players and we really have something. I think you take that chance for the C
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11/11/2004  7:19 PM
BRIGGS, problem is you cant teach HUSTLE... people have to realise that... Sweetney plays hard.. Curry doesent... ill take sweet
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11/11/2004  8:24 PM
In the last few days we hear some people salivating over players that are either notoriously lazy,locker room cancers,mentally ill,or murderers or a combination of the above.

In return for some of them we are supposed to give away in part one the best young talents to put on a Knicks uni in a long time.We have some big expiring contracts coming up,why all these panic moves? We are lucky to have as much talent on the Knicks considering where we were just a short time ago.

We dont need players with such bad reputations in the hope that they might help when we can show some patience and more than likely do better.


[Edited by - kwazimodal on 11/11/2004 20:42:16]
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11/11/2004  9:16 PM
Jermaine O'Neal needed a change of scenery from Portland, it just wasn't working out there (he was buried on the bench and unhappy) and he went to Indiana and flourished.

Same thing with CWebb once he got to Sacramento, he really flourished into a great player from a guy who was putting up OK numbers.

It's a huge risk, and I kind of agree with what MarburyIsaknick said, after this deal they would have more a lineup of ex-Bulls from the offseason (Crawford, JYD, Piatkowski, Curry, AD) on the roster. That's just odd.

It'd have to take a serious pair of balls to pull the trigger, but if there is one player in the league that can light a fire under a guy, I'd say it is Isiah.

Don't forget, before Isiah got to NY a player with the label of overweight and lazy was Sweetney, and now look at him.
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11/11/2004  9:28 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

Jermaine O'Neal needed a change of scenery from Portland, it just wasn't working out there (he was buried on the bench and unhappy) and he went to Indiana and flourished.

Same thing with CWebb once he got to Sacramento, he really flourished into a great player from a guy who was putting up OK numbers.

It's a huge risk, and I kind of agree with what MarburyIsaknick said, after this deal they would have more a lineup of ex-Bulls from the offseason (Crawford, JYD, Piatkowski, Curry, AD) on the roster. That's just odd.

It'd have to take a serious pair of balls to pull the trigger, but if there is one player in the league that can light a fire under a guy, I'd say it is Isiah.

Don't forget, before Isiah got to NY a player with the label of overweight and lazy was Sweetney, and now look at him.

Maybe overweight, but lazy? I remember that one of the things that was praised about Sweetney was his work ethic and his hard work. That hasn't been the case with Curry.
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11/11/2004  9:32 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by BigSm00th:

Jermaine O'Neal needed a change of scenery from Portland, it just wasn't working out there (he was buried on the bench and unhappy) and he went to Indiana and flourished.

Same thing with CWebb once he got to Sacramento, he really flourished into a great player from a guy who was putting up OK numbers.

It's a huge risk, and I kind of agree with what MarburyIsaknick said, after this deal they would have more a lineup of ex-Bulls from the offseason (Crawford, JYD, Piatkowski, Curry, AD) on the roster. That's just odd.

It'd have to take a serious pair of balls to pull the trigger, but if there is one player in the league that can light a fire under a guy, I'd say it is Isiah.

Don't forget, before Isiah got to NY a player with the label of overweight and lazy was Sweetney, and now look at him.

Maybe overweight, but lazy? I remember that one of the things that was praised about Sweetney was his work ethic and his hard work. That hasn't been the case with Curry.

Although there had been "rumors" that Curry had been losin weight and had been working hard, he yet has to prove that he is capable of what he can do. And what he can do, we still do not know. Sweetney however, people had realized his potentional and can become a great PF even though he is undersized
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11/11/2004  9:41 PM
Unlike JO Curry isnt burried on the bench, his getting starter mins and last year was supposed to be his breakout year yet nothing. One of the reasons Chicago got vets like AD and JYD from Toronto was for their work ethics to rub off on Curry so far it doesnt seem to have any effect. I agree with Elite, you cant teach hustle and you cant teach heart both of which Curry doesnt have. If we cant get him on the cheap in trade, just let him rot in Chicago.
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11/11/2004  9:47 PM
Curry or Sweetney?

Hmmm.... Tough question for a team that has had a big need for a true center since its franchise center was traded some seasons ago and most of the good players they have acquired have been through trades, some of them including good young talent.

Its tough because when you have a chance to get a young center that has great talent and potential you may tend to say yes no matter how much it costs. I would love to have a player of his size and potential at center in NY. But if it cost us another player that could also be great and has less questionmarks, you really have to think a lot.

If there was a way to get that future center we so much need without giving up such a great prospect as Sweetney, that would be the best choice, no matter if the center that we get isn't called Eddie Curry. Thats why I think that I wouldn't trade Sweetney if the chance presented itself. I think Sweetney will be very good in the future- he is already good this young. I do believe that there can be other ways to get that center without giving Sweets. Isiah just has to be creative, like he has been. Some good prospects will be avaliable soon so he should be alert.
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11/11/2004  10:47 PM
Man, some of you guys are acting like Curry didn't come directly out of highschool. Everybody who comes straight from highschool isn't great right away. He probably should have gone to college for at least 2 years. But this cat is like 21 or 22 right now.
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11/11/2004  10:52 PM
For me it's not age. I just smell career loser with this guy. It happens.
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