I am so disgusted with this team. I tought they had a chance at the division but after today I can't see this wussy team ever win this division no matter how mediocre the division is. They will be lucky to get to the playoffs. This team officially sucks. The only good thing about the Knicks is Sweetney and Ariza and the rest is a bunch of garbage and yes it includes Marbury. I have never been this upset about any loss like this. The hype and all that was there. They fall flat on their face. If a team can't get up for a opening night home game and give effort then to expect effort from them for rest of the season is wishful thinking.

Posted by Vmart:

I am so disgusted with this team. I tought they had a chance at the division but after today I can't see this wussy team ever win this division no matter how mediocre the division is. They will be lucky to get to the playoffs. This team officially sucks. The only good thing about the Knicks is Sweetney and Ariza and the rest is a bunch of garbage and yes it includes Marbury. I have never been this upset about any loss like this. The hype and all that was there. They fall flat on their face. If a team can't get up for a opening night home game and give effort then to expect effort from them for rest of the season is wishful thinking.

I..... sadly.... agree.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Posted by timmyTtop:

van horn looked great tonight. 14 boards 22 pts. tim cant even grab down half the boards on a good night. big mistake on isiah's part. i am really starting to believe the rumors that he's rascist.

Oh god, let's not go down this path again. What's gonna happen when TT has a great game and KVH stinks it up. They are both inconsistant players and it is guaranteed to happen.

I'll start showing faith when the team starts trying. Until then, this is pathetic. It wasn't the blowout that irked me...everyone has a stinker once in a while. It was the complete and utter lack of effort that this group of bums exhibited. This is NY. Other than the Yankees, this city doesn't really have a history of winning. Instead it has a history of a team where all players play with heart, fire, and passion. This team, I'm sorry, is not currently a NY team. Not with the soft group of players, and certainly not with the soft coach in charge.



[Edited by - nykdunk on 11/07/2004 09:08:16]

Posted by Bobby:

Posted by Knicksfan:

If you didn't like to read the papers after the opening loss, just imagine how ugly tomorrow's articles will be! No D, shaky O, No frontline, no Division title, no playoffs, no coach, no hope, no way to make trades...

Knicks?

you forgot one no heart

True! And that's the worst!

hey all. went to the game last night and left, how should i say, dissapointed.

my thoughts on the game:

1. not a good way to open the season. i think everyone who had any type of optimism for this team is seriously re-thinking those 45+ win predictions.

2. it seemed that they had NO TYPE of offensive plan. they clearly need to establish some sort of post presence early - be it tim, sweets, or vin (our only 3 post players). now last night, you could see that tim could not post up pierce and they NEVER go to sweets until the 4th quarter.

3. nothing new to say that hasn't beed said before but you could not take anything good from that game. nothing at all.

my conclusions:

1. not having penny and with h20 out show how we have no type of depth in the backcourt.

2. with the way our offensive scheme works (not going to the post early), if marbury, tim, or jc aren't hitting, then we're getting blown out.

3. our defense is scary bad. i mean scary bad.

4. do you see how aggressive sweets is when he gets the ball in the 4th quarter? ok, it was against their scrubs but he needs to get the ball early in the game to establish some sort of low post presence. he's the only one that can really do that AND HE GETS TO THE F'N LINE!!! as i was watching our offense, when we inbound or get a rebound and come down court, tim and sweets immediately go and setup down low and put their hand up for the ball. but they don't get it and then they go into a high pick offense trying to setup jc or marbury or tim from the perimeter. i don't get it. work it inside out. hey, if sweets scrubs it up, at least we know he can't handle it against the starters.

5. ariza is PURE energy. he needs to work on that jumper. i can't think of two players any more frustrating to watch than tim or kvh. but pretty much EVERYBODY took the night off yesterday. steph had 4 assists in the first 5 minutes of the game and finished with 4 assists.

Posted by MaTT4281:

I think it may be time to put an end to this thread. It would be the healthiest thing for everyone involved if they could just get over this loss. It's Sunday, watch some football, drink a beer, go to church, whatever you people do.
We have some opportunites to come back in the next few games. Just gotta keep looking forward.

...just like last season. Optimism will come back because we are fans. Its tough to wait another 2 days for next game because everyone here wants NY to win their next 2 desperately after this game. As fans, we will always keep looking forward, expecting the best. Its been that way in past seasons. Optimism, the team losses, we kill them with critics, and then we expect the best for the next game. You know what I would love for a change: MY TEAM STARTING TO WIN SO MY OPTIMISIM IS BACKED UP!

I want reasons for this optimism and yesterday wasn't a good step. Please, Knicks, we believe in you as the fans we are! Start giving us reasons to keep that faith! I want results, no more hype!

GO KNICKS!!!!

Posted by Vmart:

Damn football teams screwed us too.

Hah I know, I somewhat regret bringing that up right now. Big Blue is 5-3, still better than what I originally expected thru 8 games.