Philc1 wrote:The Frank haters now have a vacuum so they need to hate on RJ. Meanwhile if we had gotten the #1 pick overall in 2019 this entire forum would be in meltdown mode over Zion who can;t even get on the court

Exactly. Zion Williamson will go down as one of the top 5 biggest NBA BUSTS of All-Time due to his weight and lack of work ethic. He got paid $$$$ and then couldn't care less about ever playing again.

Knicks fans would be killing Zion right now and BEGGING for R.J. Barrett.

The only player I'd take over R.J. Barrett from that 1st round draft class is Ja Morant and maybe Darius Garland.

R.J. Barrett is going to develop into an NBA two way All-Star.

Frank & Brunson and Frank & Knight looked good in a lineup.
The Mavs grabbed the lead at tip-off and stretch the lead throughout the game for a high scoring win.

Kemet wrote:

blkexec wrote:

TheGame wrote:LOL. Well, he is not exactly ballin’ but his PER is up to 12.48 (the highest of his career), and he is having career highs in most of his per/40 numbers. It will be interesting to see if he turns into a consistent rotation player in Dallas.

Advanced Stats
SEASON
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
P/40 R/40 A/40 TS% AST TO USG REBR PER WINPERCENT WARP
10.9 4.2 5.9 43.7 27.4 14.4 17.5 5.8 7.11 - -
10.9 3.8 5.4 41.7 25.6 11.9 17.4 5.0 6.03 - -
12.0 4.1 5.8 49.7 28.6 11.8 16.7 5.4 9.85 - -
11.1 3.9 2.4 51.2 16.3 9.4 13.4 0.1 7.75 - -
15.0 5.9 3.2 52.6 17.0 7.8 17.1 0.1 12.48 - -

Usually, when you change jobs and the job you left doesn't see any value in you. It's a wake up call to perform better in your next job, vs your previous job. Also, Frank is in Euro heaven with Dallas, so I'm not surprised. Payton is also balling in phoenix, but he's in a roll off the bench where he can come in and perform with little expectations. NY is and always will be a harder place to perform for average players. You really have to be built for it, or NY media / fans / pressure will chew you up and spit you out. I'm glad these Ex Knickerbockers are playing well. Good for them. If we bring them back to the knicks, they will play like they did before they left.

So far we know Thibs & Randle are clueless of working with NBA PG ....
Thibs has got rid of some good PG during his NBA head-coaching career .. Nate, Rubio, Lavine, Rivers, plus Thibs were the number one reason a young D.Rose career stayed injury-prone in Chi-Town.
And Randle's creepy performance as a PF/PG has made a lot of PG performances look bad by being in their lineup, starting with Lou Williams, Alonzo Ball, Caruso, Bledsoe, Payton, Rivers, Smith, Frank, and now Kemba.

Phil Jackson drafted a young big defensive pass-first PG-Frank to put in a lineup alongside D.Rose leadership for NBA growth. And Mills/Perry kick D.Rose off the Knicks, and bench Frank for PG-Jack and SG Tim Hardaway to have a 29 win season.

The Knicks Roster since 2004 has always been 85% back-up players on the roster, we had head coaches that change the starter lineup 20 times out of 50 games. SMH
The Knicks fans expectation has always been high on all the Knicks players, but the Knicks mismanagement and decision-making could never get it right two seasons in a row, which made 90% of all the decent and star FA stay far away from the Knicks organization during each offseason.
And Thibs foolish action n decision-making on the Timberwolves had Thibs Banned from the NBA !!!

Kemet, I don't really read what you post because most of the time you don't make sense. I can't tell if it is a language barrier thing or something else.

That bolded sentence? How in the world does that make sense or even come close to making an argument? It is literally senseless.

Your thought process does not make sense.

We can do better?

Kemet wrote:This new NBA need two PG on the court for transition teams averaging above 100 pts ..
Well tonight, Frank's complimentary performance moved-up into the Mavs starter lineup (during the 126 player Covid-Protocol) to beat the Portland Blazers 136-117

Frank & Brunson and Frank & Knight looked good in a lineup.
The Mavs grabbed the lead at tip-off and stretch the lead throughout the game for a high scoring win.

We could have brought back Frank to be a wing player on what was essentially a one year deal instead of getting locked into Fournier for 4 years $75 million. Burks would have started at SF and stayed there instead of Thibs delusions about him being a PG costing us a big losing streak

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

Kemet wrote:

blkexec wrote:

TheGame wrote:LOL. Well, he is not exactly ballin’ but his PER is up to 12.48 (the highest of his career), and he is having career highs in most of his per/40 numbers. It will be interesting to see if he turns into a consistent rotation player in Dallas.

Advanced Stats
SEASON
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
2021-22
P/40 R/40 A/40 TS% AST TO USG REBR PER WINPERCENT WARP
10.9 4.2 5.9 43.7 27.4 14.4 17.5 5.8 7.11 - -
10.9 3.8 5.4 41.7 25.6 11.9 17.4 5.0 6.03 - -
12.0 4.1 5.8 49.7 28.6 11.8 16.7 5.4 9.85 - -
11.1 3.9 2.4 51.2 16.3 9.4 13.4 0.1 7.75 - -
15.0 5.9 3.2 52.6 17.0 7.8 17.1 0.1 12.48 - -

Usually, when you change jobs and the job you left doesn't see any value in you. It's a wake up call to perform better in your next job, vs your previous job. Also, Frank is in Euro heaven with Dallas, so I'm not surprised. Payton is also balling in phoenix, but he's in a roll off the bench where he can come in and perform with little expectations. NY is and always will be a harder place to perform for average players. You really have to be built for it, or NY media / fans / pressure will chew you up and spit you out. I'm glad these Ex Knickerbockers are playing well. Good for them. If we bring them back to the knicks, they will play like they did before they left.

So far we know Thibs & Randle are clueless of working with NBA PG ....
Thibs has got rid of some good PG during his NBA head-coaching career .. Nate, Rubio, Lavine, Rivers, plus Thibs were the number one reason a young D.Rose career stayed injury-prone in Chi-Town.
And Randle's creepy performance as a PF/PG has made a lot of PG performances look bad by being in their lineup, starting with Lou Williams, Alonzo Ball, Caruso, Bledsoe, Payton, Rivers, Smith, Frank, and now Kemba.

Phil Jackson drafted a young big defensive pass-first PG-Frank to put in a lineup alongside D.Rose leadership for NBA growth. And Mills/Perry kick D.Rose off the Knicks, and bench Frank for PG-Jack and SG Tim Hardaway to have a 29 win season.

The Knicks Roster since 2004 has always been 85% back-up players on the roster, we had head coaches that change the starter lineup 20 times out of 50 games. SMH
The Knicks fans expectation has always been high on all the Knicks players, but the Knicks mismanagement and decision-making could never get it right two seasons in a row, which made 90% of all the decent and star FA stay far away from the Knicks organization during each offseason.
And Thibs foolish action n decision-making on the Timberwolves had Thibs Banned from the NBA !!!

Kemet, I don't really read what you post because most of the time you don't make sense. I can't tell if it is a language barrier thing or something else.

That bolded sentence? How in the world does that make sense or even come close to making an argument? It is literally senseless.

Your thought process does not make sense.

We can do better?

Nate Robinson had a career year under Thibs. He literally never played better. So did DJ Augustine. This is like a Trump speech or something. Its like literally all just made up from farts and sprinkles

What does Trump have to do with this. Nate Robinson had a career year under MDA.

fishmike wrote:who is the better NBA prospect? Deuce McBride or Frank Ntilikina?

(right now, as is)

2nd round pick vs. minimum tier free agent. Who do you prefer?

Is this a joke? They are not even on the same planet! Ntilikina is not even an NBA level player tbh. It's crazy how we are seeing teams sign all of these FAs due to Covid and all of them are better than that scrub. You cannot tell me Damyean Dotson isn't better than him too. I bet Matt Mooney would produce more with Ntilikina's minutes and opportunities too.

SergioNYK wrote:

fishmike wrote:who is the better NBA prospect? Deuce McBride or Frank Ntilikina?

(right now, as is)

2nd round pick vs. minimum tier free agent. Who do you prefer?

Is this a joke? They are not even on the same planet! Ntilikina is not even an NBA level player tbh. It's crazy how we are seeing teams sign all of these FAs due to Covid and all of them are better than that scrub. You cannot tell me Damyean Dotson isn't better than him too. I bet Matt Mooney would produce more with Ntilikina's minutes and opportunities too.

Exactly.

Frank is now in his 5th NBA season but yet only has a player Efficiency Rating of 10.0 this year.

Deuce is only a ROOKIE but yet already has a Player Efficiency Rating of 18.2.

End of discussion.

Frank is a 5th year bust.

He plays yoot. He is different than in the past. He is not perfect, he lacks a chip. He is not having a good season. Not sure why slamming his negative points without balance is necessary?

NYKMentality wrote:

Nalod wrote:rose was youngest MVP ever and his coach was......?
MVP's play big minutes. Its why they are MVP's too.
Rubio played well under Thibs or not?
Nate had a incredible run with Bulls.
Thibs coached Randle to most improved player and all NBA.
Thibs resuscitated Drose from Detroit obscurity to a great near 6th man type!
Thibs coahced a 23 win team to one 10gms over .500.

He plays yoot. He is different than in the past. He is not perfect, he lacks a chip. He is not having a good season. Not sure why slamming his negative points without balance is necessary?

Well said.

The myth that coach Thibs doesn't play his younger players is exactly that, a myth. And it's also a bold face lie.

I bet Thibs critics can not list us 10 younger talents, throughout his entire coaching career; who he's literally refused to play.

1.)
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I'll be waiting for their list, so we can laugh at it...

Frank is still in the NBA. THe defense is still there to keep him in it for now. His age still young enough to be a prospect.
Nobody is lamenting he is gone. The point I think for some are that he had potential and still might.